New scenario in development

Allard HS · February 22, 2003, 10:34

It's been a while since I last made any sign of myself, but still, once in a while, I do some little things with civ2.

So, I would like to announce the progress I am making on my newest scenario, together with some screenshots to make it more clear.

So.. what have we here? It looks like things are heating up a bit down there..

Allard HS · February 22, 2003, 10:35

Here a convoy is being attacked...

Shaka Naldur · February 22, 2003, 11:00

tell us more, tell us more...

Heresson · February 22, 2003, 11:21

Alitta as far as I remember.

On the other hand, just Cyprus here.
And there should be more.

Boco · February 22, 2003, 11:59

Just as current events might have a chance at breaking the divide in the island....

Can't wait to see what you've designed!

Allard HS · February 22, 2003, 19:08

Here is a pic of the map. It's very old, and lots of cities have been added since, but I can't be bothered to make a new one.

Allard HS · February 22, 2003, 19:17

And the great Northern Offensive...

Jay Bee · February 22, 2003, 20:29

hey allard, welcome back old friend!

jim panse · February 23, 2003, 07:30

looks good but how on earth did you manage to place cities in adjacent squares?

Heresson · February 23, 2003, 12:20

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Originally posted by jim panse
looks good but how on earth did you manage to place cities in adjacent squares?

There was a thread about it some (long) time ago.
Either by hex-editing, or by placing cities of different nations in some way, so that they tried to colonise the same area

fairline · February 23, 2003, 12:43

Looks good. I like the idea of the border terrain tile, if that's what it is.

Insurgent · February 23, 2003, 12:46

Wow, it looks great!

BTW, Allard, can I steal the border marks? I made some ugly red dots for my LaGuerra scenario (upcoming too), and yours just look great!

The ANZAC · February 23, 2003, 19:26

I think I first saw those bordermarkers in Alex the Magnificent's last scenario, The Russian Civil Warand then in Soundwave's History

our_man · February 24, 2003, 07:40

Looking very good Allard, not that I expected anything else!

If it's even half as good as RiverWar, it will be a classic!

yaroslav · February 24, 2003, 17:25

Looks great!

I'm willing to try it

(BTW, I send you some emails a long time before, but it seems to me that you've not received it. I've discover some things about hex-editing and I want to tell you in order to update your document. Sorry for this Off-topic note)

Iron Chancellor · February 25, 2003, 15:53

Are both Greece and Turkey playable?

Palaiologos · February 28, 2003, 16:36

WOW!!!

Now thats a proper theme for a scenario!

Palaiologos · February 28, 2003, 16:44

Judging from the Apache helicopter from the attack on thrace screenshot i would say this is a modern hypothetical Graico-Turkish war.

If you need any info on the Greek and Turkish armed forces(numbers, possitions, equipment, etc.) just let me know. And the Cypriot ones, too.

Be sure to include the Turkish naval base in Albania, built there just to force the Greek fleet to divide. I think the base is at Dyrrachium but will have to check on that.

MagyarCrusader · February 28, 2003, 17:04

go greece!

Palaiologos · February 28, 2003, 18:09

The Turkish naval base is in Avlona(Vlore or something).

It is actually an albanian military installation built with Turkish money.

Actual Turkish naval presence has not been confirmed yet, but it is rumoured that in wartime a turkish naval squadron will make its appearance in the Ionian sea.

Palaiologos · February 28, 2003, 18:15

And may i ask what are those Hovercrafts doing in Thrace?

The Turks posses none, relying on their Blackhawk hellicopters for transportation while Greece, has just bought four of them, 2 Russian and 2 Ukrainian.

Is the scenario going to take place at a future date?

If so be sure to include all the equipment ordered but not yet delivered(Greek Leopard 2A6 etc.).
Again if you need those, just ask.

Boco · February 28, 2003, 21:25

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it is rumoured that in wartime a turkish naval squadron will make its appearance in the Ionian sea.

Wouldn't that be a little suicidal without air superiority in that region?

Palaiologos · March 1, 2003, 07:36

Who says the will lack air superiority? The Turks outnumber theGreek airforce by a 2,1:1 ratio. We simply do not have enough planes to protect everyting.

And anyway the whole point is to cause the almighty Hellenic navy to divide its forces.

Allard HS · March 1, 2003, 10:02

Wow, what an interest...

Yes, I did devide Nikosia in two by use of hex-editing. Originally I also wanted to make a 3rd Nikosia owned by the UN, but that would make things too crowdy, and useless anyway.

And yes, those border units are not mine, but Alex', I believe. I think I stole them from his (excellent) Russian Civil War scenario.

The scenario is indeed a modern-day hypothetical Graeco-Turkish War, inprobable as it might be at this instant. I have always been interested in the military aspect of the Greece-Turkish disliking, and this seemed like a nice idea.

Of course, historical reality has still to be taken into consideration, meaning that such a war, that might erupt, will never last than at most two weeks, due to international (and internal) pressure. For this reason, and this is more or less 'taken over' from RiverWar, there is a narrow time-limit of about two weeks in which the whole scenario happens.

But two weeks is still a lot of time...

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Are both Greece and Turkey playable?

Not Turkey, nor the Turkish Airforce, and also not the UN. All other nations are to be played, Greece, Greek Airforce, Cyprus and Cypriot AF. In fact, they are all to be played by the same player in hot-seat mode.

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If you need any info on the Greek and Turkish armed forces(numbers, possitions, equipment, etc.) just let me know. And the Cypriot ones, too.

Thanks. I can always use more info, even though the web has lots of interesting info about these subjects, and analyses of this kind of hypothetical wars.

The Turkish naval base in Albania I didn't know about. Very interesting, this might give a new front to the scenario and make Turkish numbers seem more important again over sea-power.

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And may i ask what are those Hovercrafts doing in Thrace?

They are just for the picture. I placed some units in a nice spot for a nice picture. In fact, I will probably delete hovercrafts in the scen, I think.

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Is the scenario going to take place at a future date?

If so be sure to include all the equipment ordered but not yet delivered(Greek Leopard 2A6 etc.).
Again if you need those, just ask.

It's supposed to take place at this very instant. So, all equipment not yet delivered as well as all equipment that will not be ready within a few weeks (such as the 209 subs), will probably also not be included (with some exceptions).

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And anyway the whole point is to cause the almight Hellenic navy to divide its forces.

Yes, yes, the almighty Turks are also not stupid... That's why this scenario is going to be very very hard..

our_man · May 2, 2003, 14:37

How's this coming along Allard?