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Old March 1, 2003, 09:08   #31
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I played a game with 3 other humans no AI standard map, simul. with pings in 140-200 range. No lag.
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Old March 1, 2003, 09:19   #32
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promising


Did you win ?, or apply Luxian tactics
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What I love is :
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* Fixed bug with hotseat/PBEM victory conditions and rules.
I assume it's about these games changing rules on the fly, like becoming captain difficulty. With the patch, I assume we can now play PBEM / Hotseat at emperor level without risking it to degenrate into chieftain.
Can a Firaxian confirm please ?
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Old March 1, 2003, 13:21   #34
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Good catch spiffor , you could very well be right.

Now if it only would work on saved games
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Oh man. I'm getting MOO3 tomorrow and now this!? Guess I'll have to rotate which game I'm playing.
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yea, this is a kick in the junk. i'm just getting into moo3 and now i have this patch slapped in my face

hope the rest of you like it
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Old March 1, 2003, 15:08   #37
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So, now the real stuff I want to know!!!

If the patch fixed all the lag? Is there less lag than the 1.14? Is this lagfree?

(Warpstorm: Yes sir, when you got some good pings! )


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Almost no PBEM fixes
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With the patch, I assume we can now play PBEM / Hotseat at emperor level without risking it to degenrate into chieftain.
Can a Firaxian confirm please?
Not a Firaxian, but I've tried this and the difficulty setting now sticks.
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Great
I can't wait for the UK version to ship !
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Hmm, a patch. I saw this news yesterday while browsing the MoO3 forums, was thinking "1.21f? Isn't that already out for Civ3..must be European". Of course, now I realize its PTW and 1.21f not 1.29f. Patch looks pretty good, though doesn't seem to be any major changes to SP, the military advisor speed getting fixed is great though. For now though, my galatic conq-, er unification must continue in MoO3.
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Good. I'll wait a bit longer to download it, though. Terrible past stories of wrong patches and fubared installations... Although, from what some people say, this one seems to be OK.
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And now for my usual stupid question: can I install this patch over the vanilla PTW or do I have to have v1.14 in place prior to do so?
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All Civ3 or PtW patches previously could be implemented on vanilla versions of the games. I cannot install the patch now (I have the UK version), but it is very likely the patch can install on a vanilla PtW too
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What about existing PBEM games? Can they continue if the patch is applied to one or more of the players' copies of the game?
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Any changes to the default scenario rules?
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Old March 2, 2003, 15:09   #47
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So they've fixed some of the game bugs. Whooop de do. There's none of the improvements I was hoping for. I'll finish my existing PBEM games and thats it for CIV.
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I wouldn't expect any enhancements in the future either (as I didn't in this patch), just bug fixes from here on out (although, I'd like to be pleasantly surprised).
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Well, enhancements are for CivIV.
I know, but I can always hope.
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I wonder what Soren did to the AI this time. Last patch was GREAT in terms of AI - Changes. They don´t mention it, as always.
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hi ,

well the game gets better every minute , thanks guys for fixing it

so many fixes , ......

a Q to Firaxis , how long will it take before the patches are out in the other local languages

and why on earth are there so many different versions to start with , ....

Soren , Mike

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Here's a little bug (of sorts). If those with US versions upgrade we cant play PBEM with non-US versions. This has led to a big bollux-up with some people (including me) upgrading then trying to remove the damn thing (with the usual success).

On that note, does anyone why the splash still says 1.21 if you remove 1.21 with windows 'add/remove programs'? It seemed to work (except for the splash) but it would save a bunch of trouble if I knew for sure.
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hi ,

"For the US version only and is completely incompatible with any European version."




"IMPORTANT NOTE: This patch is designed for the US version only and is incompatible with any European version of Civilization III: Play the World. "



why is it so difficult to read the above before one downloads , ......

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No **** sherlock, but I dont spend my time worrying about what version you have or if you're involved in a game with someone who's involved in a game with someone who's involved in a game with me.
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Now since only real difference between US and non-US versions is copy-protection, here is one small test.

Non-US user downloads US patch.

Then "installs" it in some backup directory (just to not overwrite original 1.14f patch)

Now, pick 1.21f civ3x.bix and civ3Xid.mb files and put them in your PtW directory (backup original 1.14f files).

Now try playing the game with such setup.
Will it them be compatibile since you'll use same BIX files as those with 1.21f version (but you'll still stay with 1.14f patch)?

I don't know.
Only time will tell.

Someone could test it.

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By the way and chance of post-patch chat with Firaxis?
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Post patch chat would be nice
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Took a chance, and lost
OK, I waited for this patch (past the 90 day refund period) thinking, no make that hoping, they will get it all working.

I still can't connect to games (no firewall, no router, no anti-virus).

I unisntalled, erased, re-installed to no avail. Totally frustrating.

I don't think I'm the only one who still has problems. Whats the trick? $500 of new hardware for a $30 game? (I already swapped NIC, tried new video card, exchangd some memory with friend).

The only reason I bought it was to play online, and it still does not work. Any magical words of wisdom, anybody find the 1 odd-ball thing that made it all work?

Running Windows XP Home (up-to-date).
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Athalon 1.2ghz T-Bird on K7S5A MB.
512K DDR.

PS
Other Directplay games I use work fine.


Any hints as to what to try would be greatly appreciated!
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You might check and see if you're running XP's firewall.
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