Official: Cancel Sea Bases?

Method · February 28, 2003, 19:47

i had this discussion a while ago...in a turnchat i believe, but i just never remembered to make the poll for it. anyways...

should we cancel our planned construction of sea bases in the Mouth of Hercules and Sea of Pholus? i ask this because of little interest in governor positions, and the fact that sea bases are more or less useless

anyways, here is a map of the planned sites, each labeled with a number:

you have 2 days.

Cedayon · February 28, 2003, 19:56

hmm, at least one would be nice for, at the least, an early warning system for that section of the coast... governorial duties could fall to centralis or someone could just volunteer...

what does everyone think about these bases, do we need them?

GeneralTacticus · February 28, 2003, 21:03

Not really. If we want an EWS, all we need is a few trawlers with Deep Radar. They could help pay for themselves, and would be much cheaper to boot.

EDIT: Where the hell is site 3?

Kirov · February 28, 2003, 21:05

Sea bases are useless and hard to defend... Cancel all, I say.

Cedayon · February 28, 2003, 21:11

Just cancel them all, we can hit Yang from Capricorn and UNXB, further penetration can be accomplished from conquered (or perhaps planted) bases once his coast is rubble-ized.

And I think site 3 is the place that escorted sea colony pod is heading for right now, very close to Yang's coast.

GeneralTacticus · February 28, 2003, 21:16

I say build it then, it would make our jobs much easier if we could base choppers that close.

Method · February 28, 2003, 21:48

scroll right. it's north of Morgan Somethingorother

Aaron Blackwell · February 28, 2003, 21:50

Cancel the sea Bases.

If we want to build more bases, it would be both safer and more efficient to terraform some terrain up to raise some land.

Land is much more easier to terraform properly.

Besides, this will also have the advantages of having our newly bases being built near existing ones. Not only for protection but also to create roads fasters and have formers and crawlers quickly in place.

GeneralTacticus · February 28, 2003, 21:54

Quote:

scroll right. it's north of Morgan Somethingorother

Ah, ok. Change my vote to cancel, then.

Hercules · February 28, 2003, 23:19

The one scheduled for near the Hive Coast (within 3/4 moves fron Hive bases, by chopper, I am in favour of).

I am in favour of sea bases generally, so the other one in the mouth of Hercules at B3 I would be in favour of building.

Hercules · February 28, 2003, 23:24

Is every one aware that there is a sea colony pod out there ( AFAIK). This is not theory anymore.
There is a colony of god knows how many our citizens looking to start a new base/life.

GeneralTacticus · February 28, 2003, 23:25

Yes, I am aware of that, and no-one has asked for that abse to be cancelled.

Hercules · February 28, 2003, 23:29

It (pod) is not heading for B3, I thought it was heading much further north and very close to Hive coast.

Hercules · February 28, 2003, 23:33

OK Good to know that . so what is all the fuss about base in and around mouth of 'Hercules'

GeneralTacticus · February 28, 2003, 23:40

...? No-one seems interested in governing any new regions, andn they're not going to be used as military bases.

Hercules · February 28, 2003, 23:41

re read question. It was the Sea of pholus bit that mislead me. Nevertheless I am in favour of build at B3

Hercules · February 28, 2003, 23:44

I have always expressed interest in Governing sea regions

Hercules · February 28, 2003, 23:46

'Hercules and the Argonauts' , sounds good.

Cedayon · February 28, 2003, 23:55

the sea colony pod out there (only 1, right?) is headed towards the site just off Yang's coast, no? That one is not being questioned.

Or is there another one?

Pandemoniak · March 1, 2003, 08:58

Sorry to say that TKG, but this poll is unconstitutionnal. Out of 9 voters, 10 votes have been received for option 3.

Pandemoniak · March 1, 2003, 09:00

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Originally posted by Kirov
Sea bases are useless and hard to defend... Cancel all, I say.

Sea bases bring lots of citizens (for votes and specialists) and lots of energy. A decent sea region is a must have for any respectable region, especially those who can multiply the votes like the UN Peacekeepers.

Maniac · March 1, 2003, 10:04

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Originally posted by Pandemoniak
Sorry to say that TKG, but this poll is unconstitutionnal. Out of 9 voters, 10 votes have been received for option 3.

This can only mean each of the options for the third site has received a vote. So it doesn't falsify the results. Just count one vote less for each option. If we had to declare all polls illegal where someone misvoted...

Maniac · March 1, 2003, 10:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Pandemoniak

Sea bases bring lots of citizens (for votes and specialists) and lots of energy. A decent sea region is a must have for any respectable region, especially those who can multiply the votes like the UN Peacekeepers.

Will you govern it? I voted 'Cancel' of course. I don't plan on performing umpteen missing jobs if I can prevent it, in case I become AT again.

Pandemoniak · March 2, 2003, 14:32

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Originally posted by Maniac

This can only mean each of the options for the third site has received a vote. So it doesn't falsify the results. Just count one vote less for each option. If we had to declare all polls illegal where someone misvoted...

The currents results are 6 to 5. If you cancel one of each, results would be 5 to 4. But if you cancel only one vote, the one mistaken, results can be 5 to 5 or 6 to 4, which is very different. Moreover, it could be several people who abstained, AND several people who voted for both options...

Quote:

Will you govern it? I voted 'Cancel' of course. I don't plan on performing umpteen missing jobs if I can prevent it, in case I become AT again.

I just remind you I will be off for a long time journey to Lady Deirdre's Gardens of Gaia quite soon -- (Im moving this month and I wont have an internet connection until april, may or even later, and then Im off to NY to see a friend

)

Maniac · March 2, 2003, 16:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Pandemoniak The currents results are 6 to 5. If you cancel one of each, results would be 5 to 4. But if you cancel only one vote, the one mistaken, results can be 5 to 5 or 6 to 4, which is very different. Moreover, it could be several people who abstained, AND several people who voted for both options...

So we can't know. But no one has come forward to say his vote has been wrong, so we can only work on the results we have. *shrugs*

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I just remind you I will be off for a long time journey to Lady Deirdre's Gardens of Gaia quite soon -- (Im moving this month and I wont have an internet connection until april, may or even later, and then Im off to NY to see a friend

)

I was aware of that. That was why I asked the rhetorical question. I hope you have a great time in NY, but please don't leave us with the mess of bases we can't govern.

Earwicker · March 3, 2003, 13:32

We need sea bases to exert stricter control over the sea territory - otherwise Morgan or another faction is liable to plop a base off our coast and eat up our resources.

Method · March 3, 2003, 17:19

Quote:

Originally posted by Pandemoniak
Sorry to say that TKG, but this poll is unconstitutionnal. Out of 9 voters, 10 votes have been received for option 3.

i don't see how that makes it unconstitutional...
besides, it's cedayon's problem now