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View Poll Results: So, where do you stand?
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I am not a US citizen, I do not support the war without UNSC approval.
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I am not a US citizen, I support the war regardless whether the UNSC approves it or not.
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I am a US citizen, yet I don't think we should go it alone.
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I am a US citizen, screw UN if it stands in the way.
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March 2, 2003, 05:50
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Deity
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Roll call: Gulf War II stance
It seems like most posters on 'Poly have chosen their position wrt to Gulf War II, any further debate is merely academic. So let me ask you this, will you support the US/UK invasion without a UN Security Council blessing?
I am not interested in your opinions wrt the *cough* credibility *cough* of the UN in this thread, so please leave those at the door, thank you.
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March 2, 2003, 05:54
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what about I am a US citizen and I think we should go if we have UK (or anyone else) to support
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March 2, 2003, 05:56
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So you think you should go if and only if at least 1 other country in the world is with you?
I find that to be a very odd stance.
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March 2, 2003, 05:56
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I am a US citizen, and I think it should be a UN thing.
But I also realize the UN thing will never happen.
And I think Saddam needs to go.
So I'm still undecided.
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March 2, 2003, 05:57
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Blair seems to become GWB's lapdog so there's no problem with UK support. Also, Howard want to have a bit of fun, so toss some Aussies in there too. As far as I can tell, that's all the support there will be without an UNSC resolution.
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March 2, 2003, 05:58
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So you think you should go if and only if at least 1 other country in the world is with you?
I find that to be a very odd stance.
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we don't have the troops to go in and stay in alone..
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March 2, 2003, 06:02
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The British aren't going to make a significant impact.
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March 2, 2003, 06:03
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On the military front, that is...
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March 2, 2003, 06:04
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who else could? (who is an ally)
but it will be enough I think so that we can shift troops else where if needed durring an occupiation
of course, th emore the better
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March 2, 2003, 06:08
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I just find it strange that having the UK just happens to be your make-or-break point...
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March 2, 2003, 06:11
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Canada would be better
I would rather have them than the UK
I am concerned with just the UK (well acutally I am concerned with any number), but probably won't protest it unless we are actually alone
the lowest my concern would go is if Canada, UK, australia and Mexico sided with our stance
I don't care about the UN
Jon Miller
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March 2, 2003, 06:12
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actually since Israel is a garuntee
I probably won't be protesting
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March 2, 2003, 06:13
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Canada could make less of an impact than the UK, by a factor of ~5 or 10...
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March 2, 2003, 06:56
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apolyton, and the world, are mostly against war, i surmise. I am for it
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March 2, 2003, 07:09
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I am not a US citizen. I want to move to France.
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March 2, 2003, 07:10
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why do you want Mexico on your side....you want to napp them to death with siesta`s? (no offence ment ofcourse) what is to good from the mexican military the US could need?
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March 2, 2003, 07:40
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I am undecided, since I have no idea wrt what the US plans to do in Iraq after the war.
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March 2, 2003, 07:43
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probably the same as what they did with afganistan.....nothing....just leave it alone...they had time to play with there new toys and now they are going away again
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March 2, 2003, 07:53
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Originally posted by Jon Miller
actually since Israel is a garuntee
I probably won't be protesting
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Hey, what a great idea! After the war is won, why not have Isreali troops stationed in Iraw to keep the peace?
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March 2, 2003, 08:40
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Didn't the Brits send some 20,000+ troops? That's significant...
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March 2, 2003, 08:53
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I'm opposed to the war no matter what the UNSC says. So, abstain.
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March 2, 2003, 09:37
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I am totally opposed to this war. If it goes ahead I am seriously considering some sort of civil disobedience.
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March 2, 2003, 09:42
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This is a bad poll. Where is the banana option and the following option:
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I am not a US citizen, I do not support the war regardless whether the UNSC approves it or not.
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March 2, 2003, 09:59
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I am not a US citizen and remain undecided on the war. I do not agree with the latest US position that disarmament is not enough and a regime change is also necessary to avoid war. While I would be happy to seem him gone, I do not know what authority allows one nation to dictate the form of government of another.
So far, this whole thing has been pretty predictable . . . Saddam "complies" a bit with weapons inspectors, delays and confuses things while the UN twiddles its thumbs
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March 2, 2003, 11:01
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How about us U.S.-citizens who oppose the war even if the UN says ok?
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March 2, 2003, 11:38
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How about us U.S.-citizens who oppose the war even if the UN says ok?
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Well, since you all will be rounded up soon, there's no reason to include you in the poll...
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March 2, 2003, 11:55
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Not a US citizen, but I would support any action which removes Saddam, regardless of UNSC support, simlpy because I (personal opinion) feel that the other members are just playing politcal games, while the Iraqi people suffer.
Wish the same resolve was shown against N-Korea .. before they do what Saddam can only dream of doing.
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March 2, 2003, 12:13
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This is a funny question. Don't think the UN matters to most Americans. Support from the UN swings the question something like 9 percentage points. The "friends like the UK, Australia, etc." swings it much more--about 20 percentage points.
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March 2, 2003, 12:23
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I only support war if there is convincing evidence that Iraq's regime is planning terrorist attacks against european targets or if they support international islamic terrorists. And if they do, UNSC approval is irrevelant imo.
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March 2, 2003, 12:28
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I am a US citizen and I don't support the war whether the UN is strung along or not.
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