WW2 Europe - favourite scenarios?

Willhelm II · March 2, 2003, 16:47

it's been done to death, but which are yours?

St Leo · March 2, 2003, 17:24

I've only played to completion the Microprose one and Harlan's WW2Euro.

fairline · March 2, 2003, 17:35

The Third Reich by Mike Jeszenka

Never really got into Second Front by Nemo. Does Red Front count, because that's perhaps my favourite ever scenario?

Willhelm II · March 2, 2003, 17:55

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Originally posted by fairline
The Third Reich by Mike Jeszenka

Never really got into Second Front by Nemo. Does Red Front count, because that's perhaps my favourite ever scenario?

I would dearly love to see a European Theatre based Scenario built on similar lines to Red Front.

Case · March 4, 2003, 01:58

Harlan Thompson's WW2 scenario is the best IMO (though Marko's The Struggle For Europe comes a very close second)

techumseh · March 4, 2003, 02:34

Mike Jezenka's "Final Days" based on the German offensive towards Stalingrad is little known (it's ToT), but an interesting operational type scenario.

Shaka Naldur · March 4, 2003, 07:08

Red front, second front and the Strugle for Europe "TSFE"

Kaptain Ken · March 4, 2003, 15:21

Red Front is my favorite (biased as I was a playtester) followed by all of the TOT ones such as Dictator, Final Days and more that I can't remember right now.
TOT is great with more units and more events, its a shame more people don't play it. TSFE was also very good, but a massive scenario.

curtsibling · March 4, 2003, 20:45

Alex and Nemo's works are all great classics.
Another gem is Mike Jezenka's 'Final Days.'
I also favour Mr Harlan and Marko's superb works.
I was also a big fan of Case's Cruel sea, I and II.

I think it is brilliant that there are so many busy CIV2 mod-makers, keeping the legacy alive!

Boco · March 5, 2003, 00:02

Herbstnebel!

(Boco disappears in guilt for not giving DV prompt feedback...)

Stefan Härtel · March 5, 2003, 11:01

I'm not a fan of the WW2 genre, but I must say that "Up The Deadly Boot" by John Petroski is a scenario of excellent workmanship. Nemo's "Red Front" and "Second Front" scenarios deserve honourable mention because they're simply well made, but for me, they will never achieve that depth.

Palaiologos · March 5, 2003, 11:06

The WW2 scenario that comes with the civ2 game.(Microprose).

Simply put, it is the best.

MagyarCrusader · March 5, 2003, 14:57

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The WW2 scenario that comes with the civ2 game.(Microprose).

Simply put, it is the best.

I'm curious, why you think that?

Caspian · March 5, 2003, 17:35

I must say that Red Front is also my favourite WWII scenario. However lets not detract anything from things like Up the Deadly Boot. I bought MGE to play this scenario. Shame about the sound though, i.e there was none as far as I know.

Palaiologos · March 8, 2003, 07:12

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Originally posted by MagyarCrusader

I'm curious, why you think that?

Well for one thing it is extremely balanced. The war in Russia really is a war in Russia, not a 5 turn walk in the park.

And it is copletely playable by all, Axis, allies, Russians.

I find normal civ2 superbly balanced. The fighter planes that scramble have a 50-50 chance to shoot down bombers, the ships have an equal attack and defense and so on.

Excellent scenario.

Michael Daumen · March 8, 2003, 08:22

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Originally posted by Palaiologos

Well for one thing it is extremely balanced....

And it is copletely playable by all, Axis, allies, Russians....

Excellent scenario.

Of course you realize that the designers cheated to make that scenario? The special "WW2-only AI" heading in the scenario options menu was to make the game operate the way they wanted. We have to do things the hard way....

Stefan Härtel · March 8, 2003, 11:37

I wonder if there is a way to create a custom-AI by editing the Civ2.exe file (or whatever they did there). If I knew even the slightest bit about programming, that would have been the first thing I'd have tried out when starting with scenario design.

ottok · March 8, 2003, 11:45

But if select it scn maybe crash!?

EZRhino · March 9, 2003, 21:19

Up the deadly boot was a favorite of mine for quite a while. Red Front front had me fearing "recall" to Moscow for more than a few late nights. The Cruel Sea was boatloads of fun

Cifer Almasy · March 10, 2003, 11:35

What exactly does the special WW2 AI? I never understood that...

Kaptain Ken · March 10, 2003, 14:32

I have been playing Civ II for years and following these threads nearly as long and have never seen the answer to your question about the special WW2 AI. I know a lot of scenario designers don't use it even in WWII Europe scenarios. Does anybody know how it differs from the normal (lame) AI?

Palaiologos · March 10, 2003, 15:14

Actually i saw in a thread somewhere that makes it harder for the AI to sign peace treaties.

But can not be too sure.

Willhelm II · March 13, 2003, 10:23

Question to Programmers - is it possible to add completley new civilizations to the Civ2.exe?

Palaiologos · March 13, 2003, 14:00

What do you mean?

If you alter the rules file you can have f.e an Arabs civ, with its own cities, leaders,titles etc.

Also there is a way to interfere with the leader portraits.

Do not know about the animated herald though.

curtsibling · March 14, 2003, 04:28

Whoa! You can add another civ?

Does it replace a civ or actually a whole new one?

Michael Daumen · March 14, 2003, 10:05

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Originally posted by curtsibling
Whoa! You can add another civ?

Does it replace a civ or actually a whole new one?

Replace.