AAR for Lux?

DeepO · March 6, 2003, 19:45

With all the talk about Luxians immigrating to other teams, and the possible intelligence those teams will be getting, it sruprises me that I have yet to see the first Luxian AAR (After Action Report). Now that they are out of the game, why don't they claim a thread as their own (No trash talking by others!), in which they give their version of history? If only Luxians comment on what has happened, it would make like an interesting read... they can do the whole thing, with screenshots of crucial moments, things they liked of how they played, things they realized they did wrong, etc.

All this information is going to be available to any team 'adopting' a Luxian, so why not make it public, as part of the history of the PTWDG?

DeepO

notyoueither · March 6, 2003, 19:47

Now there is a good idea.

asleepathewheel · March 6, 2003, 19:57

Hot_Enamel · March 6, 2003, 20:01

It would be a great read

E_T · March 6, 2003, 21:50

Let's just use this thread for that, that way we don't further clog up an already heavily used 'Poly.

E_T

OliverFA · March 7, 2003, 04:34

I cannot wait to know who was right in our internal conversations when we tried to figure what was happening

Let's hear Lux's story!

DeepO · March 7, 2003, 04:49

2 comments:
- where is Lux to comment on the idea?
- everybody has to stay out of their discussion, the moment this evolves in a trash talk thread, there won't be any fun for Lux to post their AAR.

DeepO

Arnelos · March 7, 2003, 05:33

Yeah... I'd love to know whether I or other people were right about some things...

March 7, 2003, 05:59

I say that Lux should all let you suffer in ignorance.

You all sound like a bunch of gossip vultures. Lux is dead; so should be their secrets.

Harovan · March 7, 2003, 06:15

Some people are bad losers.

OliverFA · March 7, 2003, 06:54

Quote:

Originally posted by bigfree1
I say that Lux should all let you suffer in ignorance.

You all sound like a bunch of gossip vultures. Lux is dead; so should be their secrets.

We are giving you the chance to explain your version of the facts and you call us vultures? I hope other former luxans disagree with you. Otherwise ND could come here and tell the story for you

DeepO · March 7, 2003, 07:55

Again you're missing the point, bf1. My intention was to create a calm place where Lux can tell whatever it wants, tell their history without any other comments from teams that 'won' relative to them, so that they can reflect on what happened, and move on. Every team has heared a lot of talk on the Lux situation from different sides, but most of it comes from teams who don't like Lux, or tried to eliminate them. This is your chance to settle a number of issues in which Lux was not properly represented, and you think it was proposed to gloat some more on Lux's early demise? Quite on the contrary, I would say.

Indeed, let's hope other members of Lux do see this as an opportunity, instead of another drag through the mud.

DeepO

Thrumble · March 7, 2003, 08:15

Quote:

Originally posted by DeepO
My intention was to create a calm place where Lux can tell whatever it wants, tell their history without any other comments from teams that 'won' relative to them,

I think is worth noting that in the spirit this thread was started none of the members of the teams that fought Lux have posted in this thread.

[DG]mav_son · March 7, 2003, 09:25

In my opinion it is far too early to reveal the details of lux-diplomacy! Let the secrets a few thousend years in the archives!!

Altough, it would be very interesting to learn some details of....

DeepO · March 7, 2003, 11:36

mav_son, any team taking a former Luxian will know the details anyway, that's not the point. I was trying to first of all provide a place were Luxians can have their say undisturbed, and second some way of making all Luxian joining other teams a question of the Luxian wanting to stay in the game, and not of the team needing intelligence and thus taking a Luxian just for the info he can provide.

BTW, Is Trip going to join ND? He sounds like the logical guy for you

DeepO

Zero · March 7, 2003, 11:36

wouldnt GoW and RP not want us to reveal certain things we know about that NDE shouldnt know?

DeepO · March 7, 2003, 11:53

Probably. But If GoW or RP are going to adopt a Luxian, it would be hypocritical of them not to let ND have this same information available to them.

the same holds for other teams, if information is going to get distributed anyway, it is only fair that is (at least partially) done publicly, so that all teams can benefit from it.

Plus, the focus will be different: if nobody of another team is allowed to comment, or ask questions, only information that Lux finds important is desiminated, and not what another team wants to know.

I can't say speak for the Lux team, but if GS would somehow exit this game, you can be sure there will be multiple AARs, at least one of them written by me. And the discussion and analysis of GS team members should lead to generally new insights in the game... Plus, no way I would do it for the other teams, let them rot in hell if they eliminated me, but purely for myself an AAR makes perfect sense.

DeepO

Zero · March 7, 2003, 11:55

I dont think you got my lil joke.

DeepO · March 7, 2003, 11:57

maybe... I'm not English speaking after all. But it did address a valid point, so my optinion still stands

Oh, when will people learn that in a multi-lingual environment, jokes are required to at least include one smiley?!

DeepO

Zero · March 7, 2003, 12:02

No you have to be in our continent to get it ( i think)

I had the winking face.

DeepO · March 7, 2003, 13:05

So... I couldn't get it anyway

and sorry about the

, I didn't notice it before... I guess I was (again) not paying too much attention

DeepO

Jon Shafer · March 7, 2003, 13:21

None of Lux's history was recorded, so this is really a moot issue.

[DG]mav_son · March 7, 2003, 14:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Trip
None of Lux's history was recorded, so this is really a moot issue.

I am deeply disapointed...

Jon Shafer · March 7, 2003, 14:07

Quote:

Originally posted by [DG]mav_son
I am deeply disapointed...

Sorry to hear that.

[DG]mav_son · March 7, 2003, 14:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Trip

Sorry to hear that.

Ehmm.... Allready applied Your membership?

http://www.civ2-forum.gamigo.de/show...&threadid=8095

We want aaaaaaallllll the details!!

March 7, 2003, 14:22

Quote:

Originally posted by DeepO
Again you're missing the point, bf1. My intention was to create a calm place where Lux can tell whatever it wants, tell their history without any other comments from teams that 'won' relative to them, so that they can reflect on what happened, and move on. Every team has heared a lot of talk on the Lux situation from different sides, but most of it comes from teams who don't like Lux, or tried to eliminate them. This is your chance to settle a number of issues in which Lux was not properly represented, and you think it was proposed to gloat some more on Lux's early demise? Quite on the contrary, I would say.

Indeed, let's hope other members of Lux do see this as an opportunity, instead of another drag through the mud.

DeepO

I would suggest that if Lux were to submit any information on this matter it would still be subject to conjecture by everyone else, maybe not in this thread but somewhere else.

I know you are not suggesting that if Lux 'came clean' with all the details that everyone else would accept that as gospel.

So what we be the point of Lux putting 'their side' of the story our if at a later time and place others will simply rip into the parts that they don't agree with. This is why I say 'vultures'. The point will not be dropped if Lux attempts to explain the sequence of events, it will only incite further discussion and will follow with discord aginst the other team members(of Lux) who may or may not be applying for membership into another team.

There's no good that can come out of it for Lux or it's members; only bad. So stay away you Vultures!

Meshelic · March 7, 2003, 16:09

I DEMAND THE LUXIANS RELATE ANY AND ALL HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS TO THE TEAMS!!!!

Meshelic · March 7, 2003, 16:09

at least make something up if you have no records....

Donegeal · March 7, 2003, 16:27

It is clear that Bigfree1 isn't understanding what we are after.

Please, Bigfree, goto the strat forum and look up any thread that starts with AU. Although I am not an active particpant in Apolytonian University games, I do read the thread. If you go and read (and actually listen to what they have to say) you will learn alot in a short amount of time.

realpolitic · March 7, 2003, 17:04

DeepO, I appreciate this thread. As we are all beginners at Civ3 MP, we have much to learn, and we should learn it before we contact others in the ISDG.