The criminalization of opinion in Britain. - Page 7

Bereta_Eder · March 12, 2003, 15:44

You can get any book you want in Greece and own it and read it without fearing the police.

Germany is a special matter.

In the UK, you face 10 years in prison if you have books.

And that is alright?

Provost Harrison · March 12, 2003, 15:48

I would sincerely hope there is more to this case than a bunch of books though, however. If we are imprisoning people like this it is a very slippery slope. Will I next get locked up for having a copy of The Communist Manifesto on my shelf? It's a grey area, and in itself this isn't enough to convict someone...I would expect there would have to be far more to it.

And I have a friend who lives in Heaton in Newcastle

DinoDoc · March 12, 2003, 15:53

Quote:

Originally posted by paiktis22
Germany is a special matter.

I fail to see any substantive difference between Germany in this instance and you continued whining on this subject.

Where are your calls to infuse democratic ideals into the German culture?

mactbone · March 12, 2003, 15:54

BBC links were provided on my first page (50 posts per page) here they are again chronologically -
Greek man in court on terror charges
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2822511.stm

Britain attacked over terror arrest
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2827601.stm

Greek man denies terror charges
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2841005.stm

Here is the Guardian story -
Greece furious at not being told of student held in UK
http://education.guardian.co.uk/stud...911174,00.html

Here is the Guardian's link to the law in question -
Full text - http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-file.../Full_text.pdf
Summary - http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-file...orism_bill.pdf

Provost Harrison · March 12, 2003, 15:56

Quote:

Originally posted by MacTBone
Here is the Guradian's link to the law in question -
Full text - http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-file.../Full_text.pdf
Summary - http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-file...orism_bill.pdf

The Guardian would be proud of your typo

Ming · March 12, 2003, 16:00

I can't believe you guys are continuing to let him troll you with this. This thread had dropped like a rock, and only his own bump saved it...

Well, to each their own I guess. If you guys are silly enough to continue playing his game... fine by me.

HOWEVER...
Let's stop with the petty insults, the name calling, and personal attacks... I really feel like restricting somebody today... so don't make yourselves easy targets

mactbone · March 12, 2003, 16:00

I spelled it right the first time - and at least I didn't switch the u and a (I had to look at the site to make sure)

Provost Harrison · March 12, 2003, 17:13

I was been sarcastic about The Guardian more than you, they are notorious for their typos

TheStinger · March 13, 2003, 04:54

Quote:

Originally posted by paiktis22
you antiterrorism "law" has no pararel in Europe in what regards blatant supression of civil liberties.
And that's not my opinion but that of top criminologists.

I should probably stay ouy but anyway.

What the **** does a a top criminologist know about this.Criminologists study the behaviour of criminals and the causes of that behaviour.

Once more with feeling- It is not a criminal offence to be in possession of a book in the UK unless you intend to use that book to incite/prepare or otherwise support terrorism.

Oh and if I had to be arrested in any of the EU countries Greece would be near or at the bottom of my list. After seeing that trial of the plane spotters, you couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

Bereta_Eder · March 13, 2003, 12:52

the people taking photographs of military airports broke the law. not that you would understand anything about that.

the person you arrested was having BOOKS!

I wonder if this can be put through your thick skull.

britain remains as always a great shore thumb in europe but you shouldnt verify it so often.

and by criminologists i mean law experts.

be careful what you answer your fascistic regime is listening BTW so keep up the good puppy routine in the face of your blatantly undemocratic "law".

and if you want "revenge" for your peoples' stupidity you should find a more tactful way of doing it than terrorizing a 25 year old student.
pretty pathetic.

DinoDoc · March 13, 2003, 12:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Ming
I can't believe you guys are continuing to let him troll you with this

Boredom. It's the same reason why I watch Springer occassionally.

Ozz · March 13, 2003, 12:59

Quote:

Originally posted by DinoDoc

Boredom. It's the same reason why I watch Springer occassionally.

Kind of like a circus sideshow, the Bearded lady, the
Fat lady, the Dwarf, Dogfaced boy and Factless Greek

Edit :spelling should be faceless Geek.

Bereta_Eder · March 13, 2003, 13:02

Despite the trolls, that british "law" constitues an unparaleled in europe violation of basic democratic freedoms.

only the thickhead nationalism of some usual sad suspects would deny it

DinoDoc · March 13, 2003, 13:06

I'm still waiting for you to call for an infusion of democratic values into the French and German cultures.

Bereta_Eder · March 13, 2003, 13:06

as for ozz he doesnt have anything to be proud of so he tries to appear "british" in the misconception that would give him added value

in the house of the hanged...

Ozz · March 13, 2003, 13:06

I wonder how long this thread wil last after April 9?
When some facts come out.

Bereta_Eder · March 13, 2003, 13:08

facts are already out. and they are making the brit police look like a bunch of junta operatives and the brit "law" moronic and fascist beyond belief (if you come from a democratic culture)

Quote:

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I'm still waiting for you to call for an infusion of democratic values into the French and German cultures.

im still waiting on you to get a clue

Sprayber · March 13, 2003, 13:10

Quote:

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I'm still waiting for you to call for an infusion of democratic values into the French and German cultures.

You'll be waiting for a while.

DinoDoc · March 13, 2003, 13:11

Quote:

Originally posted by paiktis22
im still waiting on you to get a clue

I have one. It tells me that this thread is all sound and fury signifing nothing of substance.

There are better ways to go about condemning the more draconian aspects of the UK's anti-terror laws than whinging like a little girl.

Sprayber · March 13, 2003, 13:11

Quote:

Originally posted by paiktis22
facts are already out. and they are making the brit police look like a bunch of junta operatives and the brit "law" moronic and fascist beyond belief (if you come from a democratic culture)

im still waiting on you to get a clue

You never really answer anything do you?

Bereta_Eder · March 13, 2003, 13:12

france and germany are your loved onces now arent they?

unbiased opinions

you just making the pimp hooker relation of US-UK a bit more apparent

Ozz · March 13, 2003, 13:12

[QUOTE] Originally posted by paiktis22
as for ozz he doesnt have anything to be proud of so he tries to appear "british" in the misconception that would give him added value

[QUOTE]

I'm Canadian, not British, I just correct your historical misquotes, I'd just don't have to do it as often for other posters.

Bereta_Eder · March 13, 2003, 13:14

ozz one just has to read your posts to see what im talkign about, case closed.

whining like a little girl?

are you talking about the US - UN relation

Sprayber · March 13, 2003, 13:16

Quote:

Originally posted by paiktis22
ozz one just has to read your posts to see what im talkign about, case closed.

whining like a little girl?

are you talking about the US - UN relation

do you get paid by the insult or do you get paid in bulk.

Arrian · March 13, 2003, 13:18

Paiktis,

Did you feel the need to fill the BAMing void after Fez left?

-Arrian

Bereta_Eder · March 13, 2003, 13:19

LOL
attacking me instead of a disgraceful "law" unique in its fascism in europe.

and all are americans.

right

Ozz · March 13, 2003, 13:19

Quote:

Originally posted by paiktis22
ozz one just has to read your posts to see what im talkign about, case closed.

One must have some fun, If you want to catch a "fish"
you must use the right bait. And it does'nt change the
facts i cite to back my posts, which makes for a strong
line to land a flappin' flounder.

Sprayber · March 13, 2003, 13:24

Quote:

Originally posted by paiktis22
LOL
attacking me instead of a disgraceful "law" unique in its fascism in europe.

and all are americans.

right

Yeah, I thought you must get paid by the insult.

Bereta_Eder · March 13, 2003, 13:29

Quote:

Originally posted by Ozz

One must have some fun, If you want to catch a "fish"
you must use the right bait. And it does'nt change the
facts i cite to back my posts, which makes for a strong
line to land a flappin' flounder.

what facts?

you dont even know about the case.

Spray and who pays you?

and this is about britain's unheard of supression of freedom of expression lest you'd forget...

attacking me is about you.

Arrian · March 13, 2003, 13:30

Quote:

this is about britain's supression of freedom of expression lest you'd forget...

Yeah, and I'm actually Elvis.

-Arrian