And then the skies wept... - Page 2

Sirotnikov · March 7, 2003, 22:20

speer, check your pms

Tuberski · March 7, 2003, 22:23

You should leave it just the way it is Siro. Even with the grammar mistakes. In fact, those mistakes made the story even more touching, it wasn't written by a professional writer, but by somebdoy that had a story to tell.

Sirotnikov · March 7, 2003, 22:25

btw, please edit your posts to remove nasty remarks.

i know it's "awkward" but i don't want this thread to recieve bad karma.

threads with bad karma are not nice to read or post in.

btw, i'm half-amused half-sad. I wanted to put a picture of Liz as an avatar, but i couldn't find one, so I put up an otter instead.

speaking of which, i'm not that of a close person to liz. as i said, i only exchanged words with her several times, never deeply. i just wanted to share a story.

i feel fake when people tell me they are sorry for my loss, since i didn't really know her. :/

Sirotnikov · March 7, 2003, 22:29

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You should leave it just the way it is Siro. Even with the grammar mistakes. In fact, those mistakes made the story even more touching, it wasn't written by a professional writer, but by somebdoy that had a story to tell.

more likely by someone who didn't get enough sleep

i tend to think of both my english and my writing skills as high, and i don't like spelling and grammar mistakes, though recently i tend to ignore those (bad poly-habit

)

i also am quite perfectionistic, but on the other hand, i prefer to keep things in their "raw" state.

i think i just might send out a fixed version to some newspaper hoping it would accept me. *continues to dream of a journalistic career*

Tuberski · March 7, 2003, 22:31

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i think i just might send out a fixed version to some newspaper hoping it would accept me. *continues to dream of a journalistic career*

That also, would be a good idea.

Sprayber · March 7, 2003, 22:52

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Originally posted by Sirotnikov
speaking of which, i'm not that of a close person to liz. as i said, i only exchanged words with her several times, never deeply. i just wanted to share a story.

i feel fake when people tell me they are sorry for my loss, since i didn't really know her. :/

You are close to people that knew her better, right? Perhaps that is where your efforts should be focused. On those you do know well that may have been devasted by her death. And besides, without you her story would not have been posted here and we would have never known. That in of itself is enough I think.

Q Classic · March 8, 2003, 02:44

you'd think people would stop caring. people die all the time, every day.

then it's someone you know, and pff... reason stops working, y'know?

sometimes it's hard to say whether we'd all be better off dead, or trying to be happy for those who aren't with us. sometimes it's just hard.

Asher · March 8, 2003, 03:11

Extraordinary post, Siro.

Eli · March 8, 2003, 05:19

Good post.

We are all already used to this, until it hits close to home.

Pekka · March 8, 2003, 08:36

Siro, lots of strength to you.

Seeker · March 8, 2003, 10:38

Well, what can I say?

All we can do is have hope for the future or kill ourselves.

Here's to hope and remembrance.

Sirotnikov · March 8, 2003, 17:32

Thanks people

I'm just trying to promote understanding.

I know our region in the world is easy not to care about. "Just let them all kill each other" people sometimes say.

The point is that there has to be a solution, which both sides won't like, but order and peace must be restored.

If we are let fighting without allowing any side to take decisive victory, the killing will just go on.

yaroslav · March 8, 2003, 17:42

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Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Thanks people

I'm just trying to promote understanding.

I know our region in the world is easy not to care about. "Just let them all kill each other" people sometimes say.

I don't know if this is going to help you, but I care about Israel every day

(BTW, I also feel sorry for palestian victims, but this is not the topic of the thread)

Sirotnikov · March 8, 2003, 18:29

Everytime you send a euro to Israel, an Israeli boy gets ice-cream

yaroslav · March 8, 2003, 18:41

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Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Everytime you send a euro to Israel, an Israeli boy gets ice-cream

I don't work yet, so I've not money to help you with, but I always try to convince my friends that Israel isn't as bad as they believe

Sirotnikov · March 8, 2003, 19:14

It's a bad picture that had waay to much contrast, so I fixed it as much as I could.

It also captured her face in the middle of singing, so her expression doesn't do justice to her pretty face.

But it's all there is. *sigh*

Elizabeth Katzman
1985-2003
R.I.P

Gangerolf · March 8, 2003, 21:45

a beautiful post, sirotnikov

Grandpa Troll · March 9, 2003, 00:38

Very touching, I hope that articles such as this have us all pause and rethink why Fighting and War and Terrorism and Killing takes place.

My Prayers are without proper words to express sorrowful feeling that you must be feeling.

May the Prince of Peace and Lord of Lords shine his Radiance of Love in the inner most Painful parts of your heart and Soul!

May God Bless your pathway!

Grandpa Troll

Ben Kenobi · March 9, 2003, 00:53

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i also am quite perfectionistic, but on the other hand, i prefer to keep things in their "raw" state.

Siro:

That's the conflict... If you want to tidy up some of the sentences, then do so, otherwise leave this well alone.

A good edit will retain the best portions while smoothing some of the rough spots.

Ramo · March 9, 2003, 03:49

That was beautiful, Siro. Thanks for sharing that with us.

monolith94 · March 9, 2003, 04:51

I'm really sorry to hear this, guy...

My highschool just lost a girl due to drunk driving a few weeks ago, actually. Terrible stuff.

laurentius · March 9, 2003, 08:09

Sorry to hear about this loss of life. These are very sad times for both israelis and palestinians. My sympathies Siro

Comrade Tribune · March 9, 2003, 08:43

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And then the Skies Wept…

...about all this crappy hypocrisy.

Tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands Iraqi casualties expected...

GeneralTacticus · March 9, 2003, 08:45

CT, have you ever shown one iota of sympathy for anyone involved in the ME?

Eli · March 9, 2003, 08:46

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Tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands Iraqi casualties expected...

Wanna bet?

Gibsie · March 9, 2003, 09:11

Let's hope the violence ends... sometime, ever.

...was the play really going to be called "Best of Fiends"?

BeBro · March 9, 2003, 09:24

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Originally posted by Comrade Tribune

...about all this crappy hypocrisy.

Tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands Iraqi casualties expected...

´

And even if this becomes true does it mean noone can post a personal story about a victim he knew??? Big nonsense.

Datajack Franit · March 9, 2003, 10:07

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...about all this crappy hypocrisy.

SHAMEFUL post of yours CT

Siro- sorry

Comrade Tribune · March 9, 2003, 10:45

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Originally posted by BeBro
´And even if this becomes true does it mean noone can post a personal story about a victim he knew??? Big nonsense.

Siro can certainly post anything he wants, just as I can comment on it.

However, this victimization game is blatant propaganda, and not even very good one. We all know -or should know!-, what is to blame for the violence.

BeBro · March 9, 2003, 10:55

So when terrorists blow up an Israeli bus, we should blame the Israelis right?

Sounds great