How does the game calculate "when to improve palace"?

aaglo · March 10, 2003, 05:21

I know, this question is quite unimportant, but this seems a bit odd, don't you think?

I'm having a success in this game, I'm the Persians (the light green in the minimap).

I'm the leader in everything by far. And yet, my palace looks like this (I'm not joking!). During the ages I've been on despotism, monarchy and democracy (my current government).

So, what's the deal?

mrboo123 · March 10, 2003, 08:19

This why I hate doing the "impove your ****"

aaglo · March 10, 2003, 08:20

Your reply hardly answers to my question...

CerberusIV · March 10, 2003, 08:30

Strange. Usually there is a prompt to improve the palace after certain key events. The initial one is usually defeating a first barbarian. I have had the game fail to prompt me for a while and then built four or five bits of the palace at once. Usually though if I open up the F9 screen it prompts me to build a bit of the palace if I can.

I know that doesn't answer your question, except that it can be a bit erratic.

Maybe you are too good and the AI is fed up with getting its ass kicked so it is making you live in a mud hut in the game as revenge.

tinyp3nis · March 10, 2003, 08:47

Same thing happened to me, even in Ptw, regardless of patches. Sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't. It's clearly a bug. I think they were supposed to fix it but...

Dauphin · March 10, 2003, 10:10

As bugs go, its one I can more than live with.

badams52 · March 10, 2003, 11:18

One time when I didn't build any city improvements, I only got to improve my palace one time. I ended up winning the game by domination. So I think one of the factors has to be somehow tied to city improvements, whether it be happiness or something else, I'm not sure.

TheStinger · March 10, 2003, 11:21

I thinks its a bug, sometimes i can improve it all the way by 1500 other times it never apears

Thirgaral · March 10, 2003, 11:36

One problem I´ve noticed is that if you do really great one turn so the "palacebuilds" wait in line or if you store them during many turns , enabling you to build them all at the same time.... if you don´t see them, the others will remain unused and if you save that game they won´t be there when you load it again....which means you´ve lost your chance of building a nice palace.....

Asmodeus · March 10, 2003, 12:20

I think (although i'm not certain) that certain events trigger palace improvements - and yes they do get 'stuck' sometimes and then you get to do several at once.

I've noticed that early on the first time a Barbarian attacks a city and you defeat it you will almost allways get one.

Quite often you get one for building a new city (seems to happen more with expansionist civs).

There are others but these are the only ones that seem to happen often. I think health/happiness/education have a influence too.

Gunnar Thor · March 10, 2003, 13:10

I usually get them with WLTK days.

pedrojedi · March 10, 2003, 14:29

I usually get some after building a wonder, and if I build a lot of wonders almost at once, then I get lots of improvements. Not that I really though; that's the one thing I liked a little more in civ2. Building your palace is just not the same thing as decorating your throne room... I liked to decorate everything around and STILL sit on a rock.

Chemical Ollie · March 10, 2003, 15:34

The palace has no function in the game has it? I have gotten bored of building it, so I just ignore it.

mrboo123 · March 10, 2003, 17:21

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Originally posted by aaglo
Your reply hardly answers to my question...

I guess why your laughing is because of the stars, those a suppost to repented (I can't spell) it being a Blank, I think I shold of put that there first.

Mad Bomber · March 10, 2003, 20:37

IIRC there is an option to avoid the palace under preferences. Check to make sure that this option is not enabled. Sometimes playing a PBEM game changes your preferences its possible that this is the cause and not a bug.

aaglo · March 11, 2003, 02:03

I'm not playing PTW. And I've had one chance to improve my palace. Look at the ground...

Nym · March 11, 2003, 08:02

It happened to me so long ago (several games) last time, that I have completely forgotten this feature!

Alex · March 11, 2003, 22:46

Never had trouble upgrading my palace, but then I never pay a lot of attention to this feature either...

badams52 · March 12, 2003, 00:08

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Originally posted by Mad Bomber
IIRC there is an option to avoid the palace under preferences. Check to make sure that this option is not enabled. Sometimes playing a PBEM game changes your preferences its possible that this is the cause and not a bug.

I believe you're thinking of Civ 2. I don't recall a option to turn off the palace, but I could be mistaken.

Mad Bomber · March 12, 2003, 00:23

Badams:

You may be right on this but my intent was to have them check just in case.

Skanky Burns · March 12, 2003, 01:31

Nice hut!

steven8r · March 12, 2003, 13:11

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Originally posted by Thirgaral
One problem I´ve noticed is that if you do really great one turn so the "palacebuilds" wait in line or if you store them during many turns , enabling you to build them all at the same time.... if you don´t see them, the others will remain unused and if you save that game they won´t be there when you load it again....which means you´ve lost your chance of building a nice palace.....

I've noticed that if I save a game and reload it that the palace builds won't be in place, but I'll have 'credit' for them and I can build them.

For example, say I've had 5 palace builds so far this game and I use them all on the main building. Then I save and exit the game. When I reload it and check my palace screen (which isn't often) my palace will be just a rock, but I'll have 5 builds awaiting my decision of where to put them.

I don't remember if this was just w/ PTW or if it also happened in regular Civ3.

As far as what triggers the Palace Builds, here's what the Civ3 manual has to say: "As you rule, your citizens will sometimes offer to improve your imperial palace (Pg 198." and "At times throughout the game, your citizens will spontaneously offer to make improvements to your palace (Pg. 219.)"

Those quotes don't really help much, do they?

Thirgaral · March 12, 2003, 16:51

Quote:

I've noticed that if I save a game and reload it that the palace builds won't be in place, but I'll have 'credit' for them and I can build them.

Well, that´s a problem I´ve never had. But I only have regular civ 3, so it´s probably a PTW problem.
Uhm...how often does it happen?

Quote:

As far as what triggers the Palace Builds, here's what the Civ3 manual has to say: "As you rule, your citizens will sometimes offer to improve your imperial palace (Pg 198." and "At times throughout the game, your citizens will spontaneously offer to make improvements to your palace (Pg. 219.)"

No they don´t.... But I´m glad firaxis won´t reveal all the secrets of the game.... otherwise you would end up going:
"If i cin that, the program will cout that. So what do I input to get the right output?"

(the worst nerd would sit there only seeing binary numbers

)
And you´d loose some of the magic....

If you don´t know all the processes of the program, it feels more real...

badams52 · March 12, 2003, 20:10

I've always wondered if it was harder for the programmer to play and enjoy his game like civ 3 since he already knows the nuts and bolts of the system.

Thirgaral · March 13, 2003, 10:47

If find it harder to enjoy my own games....not that they´re so advanced but....

steven8r · March 13, 2003, 13:11

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Originally posted by Thirgaral
Well, that´s a problem I´ve never had. But I only have regular civ 3, so it´s probably a PTW problem.
Uhm...how often does it happen?

Ok, so I was brain-dead when I wrote that. After looking back, I think it only happened during a multiplayer game that I had saved and restarted.

Sorry, I didn't mean for my personal dementia to spread to others.

Thirgaral · March 14, 2003, 03:47

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Originally posted by steven8r

Ok, so I was brain-dead when I wrote that. After looking back, I think it only happened during a multiplayer game that I had saved and restarted.

Sorry, I didn't mean for my personal dementia to spread to others.

Ok