March 12, 2003, 13:47
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March 12, 2003, 14:32
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I wonder if this is the work of Austrian nationalists?
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March 12, 2003, 14:34
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Originally posted by Frogger
The last high-profile assassination carried out in Serbia that I'm aware of had some rather dire consequences...
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Sarajevo is in Serbia since when? 
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March 12, 2003, 14:38
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A sad day indeed.
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March 12, 2003, 14:39
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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Sarajevo is in Serbia since when?
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Well they did try to make it that way 
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March 12, 2003, 14:39
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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Sarajevo is in Serbia since when?
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Perhaps he advocatres Greater Serbia 
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March 12, 2003, 14:42
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Originally posted by Sprayber
Well they did try to make it that way
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It's this kind of thinking that is part of the problem. There's a BIG difference between a United Slavic State and this myth of a "Greater Serbia" perpetuated by Western propaganda.
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March 12, 2003, 14:46
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There's a BIG difference between a United Slavic State and this myth of a "Greater Serbia" perpetuated by Western propaganda.
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There's also a BIG difference between a United Slavic State ruled only by Serbs and a true United Slavic State ruled by all Slavs.
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March 12, 2003, 15:42
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a true United Slavic State ruled by all Slavs.
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last time they tried that they ended up massacring eachother
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March 12, 2003, 15:45
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It seems to be the done thing amongst the Serbian higher politicians. I am aware that Milosevic had many opponents and people who mildly irritated him in positions of powers 'eliminated from the equation'...
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March 12, 2003, 15:48
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Sad news, but politics in the region are obviously vbery poisoned. probably a bunch of Slobo fans killed him.
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March 12, 2003, 15:55
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It would sound the most likely explanation GePap, it is the kind of tactic his cronies would employ.
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March 12, 2003, 15:57
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The Swedish foreign minister was just 100 meters away, on her wait to a meeting with Djingic (forget my spelling). But I guess she has nothing to do with the assassin.
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March 12, 2003, 15:59
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March 12, 2003, 15:59
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Originally posted by ThePantaloonDog
There's also a BIG difference between a United Slavic State ruled only by Serbs and a true United Slavic State ruled by all Slavs.
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Again... another victim of Western misinformation.
There's a BIG difference between what Milosevic wanted and said in his speeches AND what the West translated and told it's short-attention spanned masses.
I don't want this to turn into a Milosevic threadjack though. Make another thread if you want to debate his involvement or lack-there-of in "ethnic cleansing" or other misleading catch-phrases.
Djindjic was a good leader who wanted more democracy and progress for Serbia.
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March 12, 2003, 16:04
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Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Sarajevo is in Serbia since when?
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Nit pick, nitpick, nitpick. It was a Serbian nationalist, though...
Anyhow, all those Balkans folks look the same to me.
There are even some people at this site who can't tell the difference between Greeks and Macedonians. 
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March 12, 2003, 16:07
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That's okay, I have sometimes have difficulties in telling the difference between Republicans and the mentally-handicapped.
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March 12, 2003, 16:23
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Re: Re: Serbian Prime Minister Assasinated!
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Last I heard, Milosevic wasn't convicted by the International Court of Tribunal on former Yugoslavia and Rwanda. If he is an evil a man as the West made him out to be, that shouldn't be such a hard task.
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That wasn't quite where I was headed with my comment...
You see, A few years back, France and company bypassed the UN and convinced Clinton to use the NATO alliance to force Serbia to quit the Balkan conflict and, eventually, unseat Slobo. Whether you think it was justified or not (and a lot of Americans thought not), two facts are clear: 'old Europe' chose to ignore the UN (because of a promised Russian veto), and the United States chose to stand by its allies in spite of this.
Now, when we try to unseat a dictator that we feel are a threat to our interests, these same countries not only do not help, they actively block us at every step and whine on and on about our trying to undermine the UN. The hypocracy is blatant and appaling.
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March 12, 2003, 16:26
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Originally posted by Sava
That's okay, I have sometimes have difficulties in telling the difference between Republicans and the mentally-handicapped.
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March 12, 2003, 17:09
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What was the point of that post, FP? Do you really need to threadjack?
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March 12, 2003, 17:13
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Despite the fact that I am anti-war at this point, I think TMM's post re: Bosnia & Kosovo is a good explanation (at least in part*) of the Bush Admin's irate reaction to Franco-German resistance.
* - the other bit being their unilateral tendancies, which includes a basic "to hell with what everyone else thinks" mentality.
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March 12, 2003, 17:29
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Originally posted by Sava
Again... another victim of Western misinformation.
There's a BIG difference between what Milosevic wanted and said in his speeches AND what the West translated and told it's short-attention spanned masses.
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Of course, there were also some differences between what he said and what he did....
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March 12, 2003, 17:52
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What was the point of that post, FP? Do you really need to threadjack?
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I'm sorry if I got in the way of your attempt at a "blatant and appaling hypocracy of Old Europe" threadjack. 
God forbid that anyone should deflect attention away from your rantings.
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March 12, 2003, 18:07
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It's my thread, kid. If you look at the first post, it's where I've been heading from the start.
Sava is Sava, but I've come to expect better from you.
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March 12, 2003, 18:15
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Aaah, that's nice. 
Sorry I disappointed you.
NB: this might seem sarcastic, but actually it isn't
So ... how about those dead Serbian Prime Ministers and the hypocritical reaction of France and Germany to US action against Iraq??
Come on people! Let's try and keep it on topic!
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March 12, 2003, 18:26
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TMM: you know, it is possible to threadjack your own thread. And that's what you've accomplished here. If people like our pseudo-Turkish friend were actually interested in this topic then you've f*cked it for 'em by appropriating the thread subject for something different.
Stealth Iraq Thread
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March 12, 2003, 19:25
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Plus, why are you engaging in copy-pasting site to site? It drives me crazy...
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March 12, 2003, 19:31
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Re: Serbian Prime Minister Assasinated!
My take on this is that he was a GOOD person for Serbia, and their lost is also our lost.
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March 12, 2003, 22:21
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Why would France want to get rid of Slobo? I can see Germany wanting to get rid of Slobo since he was beating up on their little friends the Croats. But what would France have to gain from having Slobo in the evil hands of the Dutch?
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