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View Poll Results: Seperate commanders for the branch services?
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Yes
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Let the Marshal Decide
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Red Commie Banana
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March 12, 2003, 15:25
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What Military Positions?
In the current structure of the government as defined by FMK, there are 6 military commanders who will be appointed by the Marshal, the 6 intial fronts. However others have proposed seperate positions for being in charge of partisans, the NKVD, and the navy. What do you think?
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March 12, 2003, 15:36
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King
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I reckon that the Marshall ought to control all three of them. It seems a bit pointless to delegate such small roles out to one person a piece.
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March 12, 2003, 15:39
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It makes it a lot harder if the marshal controls the NKVD and partisan units instead of the front commanders, if the two wanted to use the irregular troops as part of a coordinated attack they would have to be constantly trading the save game, which would take forever. I almost voted no, but instead voted to leave it up to the marshal, which means he can try it, and if he hates it he can fire the little leaders and hand control over to the front commanders at will
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March 12, 2003, 15:44
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the three fronts it is very weird,
I think that a few of them can't be hold
i vote no
with three fronts we have enough, every military comander will control the units built in his cities ad will control his cities completely
this way the game will be more dinamic and funny,
too many comanders too many troubles
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March 12, 2003, 15:51
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King
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How about delegating control of the partisans, navy and NKVD to a separate commander, as opposed to the marshall?
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March 12, 2003, 16:31
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I say let the marshal use the partisans (they never acted in coordination with the armed forces anyway).
The navy should imho be up to the front commander controlling the front the naval units are in.
And having one person only controlling the few NKVD units on the map seems a bit silly
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March 12, 2003, 16:43
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The way we have run our armies in the Civ2DG is to have a single SMC who recommends unit placements, so that the president knows where to move the units.
Given the size of the map, I think that we should have 3 fronts, North, Central and South, a triumvirate if you will.
Partisans should fall under the control of the military commander of the front in which they occupy, as should the naval units.
Why split the task of the navy from the rest of the military?
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March 12, 2003, 16:47
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I think the original 6 front dividement is good.
Changing back to only 3 fronts seems to little for this big map imho.
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March 12, 2003, 16:53
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I agree with the initial ideal of 6 Fronts. This can change with time, as it did in reality with perhaps new Fronts opening up as the strategic situation changes
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March 12, 2003, 17:01
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King
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6 fronts seems good.
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March 12, 2003, 17:34
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Originally posted by Henrik
Changing back to only 3 fronts seems to little for this big map imho.
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not to mention fewer positions for people to be in.
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March 12, 2003, 17:51
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it would be nicer to have enough people to vote and 6 comanders,
but look at how many people voted, only 8!!
and at the comunity we are only 9
it is going to be very difficult to be more than 10 people posting regularly at the forum
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March 12, 2003, 17:52
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Prince
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The Marshall should decide!
This is the era of Stalin afterall.
6 Fronts for the army seems right for this scenario. I think th marshal should have control of the partisans NKVD units and mabe the navy: this is more historicaly accurate, the NKVD never took orders from military commanders. However the Marshal should be totaly free to deligate/assign them to front commanders: if they want to use them in a co-ordinated offensive or whatever.
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March 12, 2003, 18:50
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King
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Of course, I saw it this way initially, so I do like the 6 front idea. I'll take some screenies in a minute to illustrate. NKVD... I suppose the Marshal could move them, but really thay arent very numerous and they are killer on defense. I would prefer Front commanders get control of them as they will really need them.
I am generally able to, when playing in SP mode, to initiate an attack on Warsaw from the Pryapt with Partisans well before the 'Uprising' events. If not before, I genrally capture said city during the uprising at the very latest. I would'nt mind the Marshal having a go at that, or whatever. Genrally the area of highest concentration for partisans is the Pryapt marshses, so the commander closest to them would have control over most partisan activity if the Marshal can't be bother to play them.
-FMK.
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March 12, 2003, 20:08
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let the marshal setup that if he wants, he can waste his own time
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March 12, 2003, 21:32
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I go for six fronts!
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March 13, 2003, 12:28
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6 Fronts sounds good to me!
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March 13, 2003, 14:50
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it would be nicer to have enough people to vote and 6 comanders,
but look at how many people voted, only 8!!
and at the comunity we are only 9
it is going to be very difficult to be more than 10 people posting regularly at the forum
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For this reason we should cut back on the number of fronts. Give people more to do, but they will have to do it well.
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March 13, 2003, 16:22
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Prince
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Keep the six fronts, we have 20+ registered members.
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March 13, 2003, 17:24
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6 fronts... hopefully there wont't be too much bureacracy. In any case the Marshal can sack them later on...
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