Ithkul population

Daz · March 13, 2003, 11:21

Whoa, I feel sort of uneasy asking a harvester question in fear of QS/IG coming down on me like a ton of bricks...

I've heard that if you have Ithkul population on a planet, they will eventually "eat" all of your people?

Is that true, and if, what can be done? Will this spread to other planets I own?

Is there some kind of "eject all non-humans into orbit" button?

Harry Seldon · March 13, 2003, 11:34

Just bomb them. They'll spread on their own and devestate your population.

Daz · March 13, 2003, 12:06

Hmmm, I already have 4 times more of my own population on that planet...

Hydro · March 13, 2003, 13:21

General order when an Ithkul planet is sighted: Planet Sculpture 101 Report to the Bridge!!

Or, you can be less emotional and rational, like a Dalek (sp? Dr Who): EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

One side benefit is that the AIs really love it when you exterminate Ithkul (must be due to the huge negative sympathy/antipathy). I've had so many **thank you (relationship improving)** since I started outright extermination, as opposed to containment.

mactbone · March 13, 2003, 13:35

Wouldn't your citizens band together if the Ithkul population was killing them?

I mean, if vampires appeared out of the blue and started sucking peoples' blood I think that either the gov. would do something or some gun-nuts would break out the ammo. Is your population so docile that they don't care?

vmxa1 · March 13, 2003, 14:32

I have played them and landed on magnate civ and see the percentage of I-kools grow and grow until only they exist.

Hydro · March 13, 2003, 14:59

MacTBone - you're right. There should be some 'horror' factor built in to having any Ithkul on a planet with non-Ithkul. Remember the intro movie? Can you imaging these things being citizens and spreading by consuming other citizens, and the (non-Evil) Emperor being OK with this? It reminds me of the Alien movies **shudder**.

In my opinion any planet with mixed Ithkul/non-Ithkul races should have a severe instability problem. I'd also like the option of genocide against a certain race. Heck, humans do that to each other all the time - why not against a parasitic **thing** that really wants to suck your brains out?

asleepathewheel · March 13, 2003, 17:44

haha

what you'll have to do is gift the planet to someone you are about to start a war with and then demolish it properly. You must act before they start migrating tothe other planets in the system.

Harry Seldon · March 13, 2003, 17:47

Or just gift it to someone and let it rip their populations to bits.

Hydro · March 13, 2003, 21:09

A gift with teeth! Big, nasty teeth!

Daz · March 14, 2003, 03:43

Uhm, what I noticed for the last 20-30 turns is that the Ithkul population is not growing. In fact it might have shrunk somewhat.

I'm not doing anything but watching. I have to learn the mechanics of this migration thing some way! We all know that this is SADLY the ONLY way....

AntaranX · March 14, 2003, 05:44

Yep, if you exterminate the Ithkul population all the other races change the attitude towards you. It's also mentioned in the manuals in the manuals that they have hate relation with all other races. Even my enemies stop the war and started to offer non-aggression pacts.

smellymummy · March 15, 2003, 19:07

one time i conquered a small population ithkul planet. That planet eventually turned into a 100% Evon population, as the ithkuls migrated to a better place.

Of course I turned all migration off, since I read the stuff about ithkuls being sent as migrants to planets and then eating people. So I didnt want that to happen. However the AI still moves population on its own (under demographics you can see the amount of emmigrants), good thing is that it does it in a smart way.

So I never had a problem with the Ithkul 'eating' the regular population. What I've seen instead is the regular race leaving, or the ithkul leaving. In that same game, I ended up with a large multi-ethnic empire. Eventually the planets purged out the other races, so what I ended up with was pure ithkul planets, pure evon planets, pure jellyfish planets and pure sillicoid planets, but never 100% ithkul across the board.

Cymrean · March 16, 2003, 04:20

I'm playing as the ithkul and i have already 3 other races form conquest: tachidi, eoladi and ajadar. And no ithkul try to migrate to the other races planets.

(btw finally no darlok magnates... in my former games there was too many of them

Anyways i agree with the fact that planets occupied by someone and the ithkul should have big unrest and big migration.
I the same game i colonized a brye-eth planet (which i close in the habitability range for the i-kools) and saved the game to see what happens. The first time i cklicked next turn a brye-eth colony appeared in the nearby system, but when i reloaded no such thing happened and the ithkul ate the non-corporeals