Course description for AU207 - Page 5

Catt · March 19, 2003, 20:10

If there's a panel set up to vet proposed changes to the AU Mod, I think alexman is an obvious key and Nathan a great choice. I shouldn't be on it (and won't be) -- truth be told I almost always play with standard "out of the box" rules -- the only time I play the Mod is in AU games, and then not in every AU game. Someone with a greater vested interest in the effectiveness of the Mod reaching its goals (and who regularly plays it) would be a much better fit.

I can understand not wanting to nominate yourself Dominae, but why shouldn't you be on the panel? You play the Mod regularly (if I'm not mistaken) and you actively participate in the AU Mod discussions regularly. I don't see why you yourself shouldn't be on any such panel if one is created.

Catt

nbarclay · March 19, 2003, 21:01

Dominae, I think I'll go ahead and try playing with the regular AU Mod. I still have serious misgivings, but I don't think the changes Alex snuck in are as likely to undercut my Egyptian strategy as they would be strategies I use with other civs. Thanks again for being willing to set me up a modified version, though.

Dominae · March 19, 2003, 21:05

Actually, Catt, I was hoping you would be the unbiased "voice of reason" on the panel. Although you do not play with the mod, your occasional comments on some of its features are clear and pertinent.

I honestly consider myself to be a bad candidate, as I'm prone to get into arguments with alexman and Nathan (who should definitely be on the panel, IMO). I'm also too willing to say "whatever" when things do not go my way, instead of thinking things through and backing up my arguments. I think we need someone who is more likely to form a definite opinion.

Dominae

Dominae · March 19, 2003, 21:12

Nathan, you did get the file I sent, right?

I hope this mod business does not get in the way of anyone's fun. If it does, the mod is not worth it in my opnion (I mean that). If ever it comes to abandoning the AU mod entirely, I think you'll find that the stock rules are still fun.

Dominae

nbarclay · March 19, 2003, 22:27

I can't find it in my inbox, so either it didn't get through or it got lost amidst the spam. In any case, I'm far enough along with the regular AU Mod version that it doesn't especially matter.

alexman · March 20, 2003, 00:38

Thanks for considering me for this AU mod panel, but I have to decline. I'm afraid that I don't have the energy to get into these recent never-ending debates with the other two panel members. I would much rather spend my time actually playing the game, or trying to figure out how it works.

But I wonder if Nor Me could accept in my place. I think he has a very high understanding not only of the mod and how it goes about reaching its goals, but of the game in general.

Dominae · March 20, 2003, 01:26

Actually I was hoping that the three panel members would sit out of most of the debates, and would simply vote when a new version would be released. I'm not sure how you could not be on the panel, alexman, given your central role in the AU mod in the past.

Maybe we can do without a panel after all, but if the major disagreements continue, I think it is the best way to avoid slugfests!

Dominae

nbarclay · March 20, 2003, 02:07

I don't really care whether there's a formal panel or an informal process of building a consensus, just so long as there's an adequate period for discussion and to make sure proposed changes are okay with the players before they're incorporated.

Mountain Sage · March 20, 2003, 07:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Yahweh Sabaoth

Mountain Sage: I at the very least will wait for you to start. That is, if you promise to start as soon as you get PTW.

But for us idiots out there, can one of you include a LINK directly to what we need to DL?

Don't wait for me. I know you're dying to to start asap. I'll catch you up (CNN is not very interesting or useful anyway).

Idiot? Speak for yourself. I'm not idiot, just plain dumb (specially with computers)

I presume that DL means 'download' and not Direct Library (Dominae's new Wonder in AU207)

Mountain Sage · March 20, 2003, 07:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Arrian
We'll see Yahweh. Maybe I'll try it out. No promises, though.

My vacation is in RL, not a self-imposed vacation from civ (hah, like that would work!). I won't have access to civ in the Caribbean, and if I did, and I played, I should probably be shot.

-Arrian

So you still plan to 'settle' your GF on a remote island?
Don't forget to pick her up before Xmas

Fosse · March 20, 2003, 10:51

Quote:

Originally posted by nbarclay
I don't really care whether there's a formal panel or an informal process of building a consensus, just so long as there's an adequate period for discussion and to make sure proposed changes are okay with the players before they're incorporated.

This makes perfect sense. It's what's been going on all along. Adding a layer of beuracracy will probably just polarize viewpoints unnecessarily, and inhibit newcomers ("nice mod, but if I'm not on the panel, why bother commenting.").

I could be wrong about both of those points, but why fix something that isn't broken? As long as a reasonable number of people have voiced opinions about changes, and you have some sound evidence (or theory) to support them, then decisions can be made.

Yahweh Sabaoth · March 20, 2003, 11:03

As the self-appointed Official Fool of Apolyton, I would like to nominate Alexman, Nathan, Dom AND Catt to sit on the panel, and perhaps a fifth person just to adjudicate arguments between them!

The panel's main purpose would be to vote: ties would be broken by the adjudicator. Debate would be civil.

What you guys seem to be arguing about certainly does NOT seem irreconciliable from an outsider's point of view.

Mountain Sage · March 21, 2003, 17:22

OK, don't panic (yet).
I managed to uzip the file. It's AU207.bic
How do I load it in Civ3, since it seems to accept only .sav files?
I'm

Yahweh Sabaoth · March 21, 2003, 17:29

Quote:

Originally posted by Mountain Sage
OK, don't panic (yet).
I managed to uzip the file. It's AU207.bic
How do I load it in Civ3, since it seems to accept only .sav files?
I'm

Don't be

, be

. Or at least be

!

Arrian · March 21, 2003, 17:44

I extracted the version I'm playing directly into my PtW scenario folder and then loaded it as a scenario.

I don't remember if using vanilla CivIII makes the process different, though.

-Arrian

Mountain Sage · March 21, 2003, 18:11

Arrian,

I don't have PTW yet (3 days to go).
Your explanation=Egyptian hieroglyphs
Step by step please (computer people do the job for me, not the reverse!, at least in real life!!!)
I know, it's embarassing the first time, at least for me...

Dominae · March 21, 2003, 18:29

Mountain Sage, there should be 3 files in the zip file I posted. One of them is named Civ3 1.29 (or something similar). That's the file you have to put into your Scenarios folder.

Dominae

nbarclay · March 21, 2003, 18:58

If it works like PTW (and I'm almost sure it does), do the following:

1) Unzip the zip file.
2) Move or copy the .bic file to your Scenarios folder. (The default location is Program Files->Infrogames Interactive->Civilization III->Scenarios.)
3) From the Civ III opening menu, choose Load Scenario (instead of the regular Load) and pick the scenario for AU 207.

Mountain Sage · March 21, 2003, 19:49

You know what?
IT EVEN WORKS!!!
BY AU999 I'm sure I'll teach you...
In the meantime,

to you all.

I'll play the French, of course, on 1.29 (I just can't wait PTW). Will be interesting comparing all the French players.
Don't expect any comments soon, I like to die alone (spoilers are, well, spoilers).
If I manage, I'll play the PP.

Signed: Arrian's Gimini Cricket

Theseus · March 21, 2003, 20:03

Dear God, how much goes on here...

OK, I'm gonna skip AU 206, and jump right into this one; I know, I know, this is meant to be non-time sensitive, but I wanna start along with the rest of you guys for the first time in a while.

Please forgive me, poor P3-500 workhorse.