[21:24] * MartinG was kicked by Locutus (Locutus)
[21:24] <Trip> woops
[21:24] <Locutus> it was a ghost

[21:24] <MartinGuehmann> Got a map exchange offer by the Scotts
[21:25] <Gilg> sounds good
[21:25] <Locutus> oooww, goody
[21:25] <Locutus> agree of course
[21:25] <Locutus> so they like us...
[21:25] <MartinGuehmann> So I am going to accept...
[21:25] <Gilg> you haven't taken it yet?
[21:25] <Gilg> YES
[21:26] <MartinGuehmann> Yes.
[21:26] <MartinGuehmann> The Germans dared it to enter our territory and now standing in front of MP with their size 12 stack.
[21:26] <Gilg> Screenie?
[21:26] <Locutus>

[21:27] <Gilg> WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
[21:27] <MartinGuehmann> Doing it.
[21:27] <Locutus> move some units there from CL.
[21:27] <Gilg> How can they dare?
[21:27] <Locutus> and offer 100 more gold
[21:27] <Locutus> after that, request their withdrawal
[21:27] <Gilg> asking them to retreat?
[21:28] <Gilg> OK, beaten me typing

[21:28] <Locutus> after that, pray

[21:28] <Gilg> pray and take shelter?
[21:28] <Locutus> yup
[21:29] <MartinGuehmann> Withdrawl in Exchange of the gold or two different treaties?
[21:29] <Locutus> 2 treaties
[21:29] <MartinGuehmann> OK
[21:30] <Gilg> can't see the map..........
[21:31] <Gilg> no map still?
[21:32] <Locutus> BRB
[21:32] <MartinGuehmann> Pressed the submit reply button.
[21:32] * Locutus is now known as Locutus|BRB
[21:32] <MartinGuehmann> I returned to the post, it should be now there.
[21:32] <Gilg> that's better

[21:33] <Gilg> it would be 12 against 9? We'll be able to move the 4 units into MP?
[21:34] <MartinGuehmann> There already there, I moved them in the meantime.
[21:34] <MartinGuehmann> The Germans rejected the withdrawl.
[21:35] <Gilg> OK

[21:35] <MartinGuehmann> So I could threat them.
[21:35] <Gilg> Yes, try
[21:35] <Gilg> Locutus?
[21:35] <Gilg> I have the bad feeling they want to hunt us!!!!!!!
[21:35] <MartinGuehmann> Again rejected.
[21:35] <Gilg> not good...........
[21:36] <Locutus|BRB> back
[21:36] * Locutus|BRB is now known as Locutus
[21:36] <Locutus> they will attack

[21:36] <MartinGuehmann> So that's it with the Germans.
[21:36] <Gilg> looks like.........
[21:36] <Gilg> For MP, should we rush-buy the HP?
[21:36] <Locutus> if they attack we should end the chat and discuss strategy...
[21:36] <MartinGuehmann> No idea if they attack, but they have still a higher regard to us then India.
[21:37] <MartinGuehmann> If they attack then the Hopelite is not finished.
[21:37] <Locutus> may be, but if I know them, they will backstab us...
[21:37] <MartinGuehmann> So let's see.
[21:37] <Locutus> gilg: a little late for that...
[21:37] <Gilg> We should have placed a 'bait' in front of them..........
[21:38] <Locutus> too late for that now...
[21:38] <Gilg> as well.....
[21:38] <MartinGuehmann> I have a new archer in CL, so move it to MP or just leave it there?
[21:38] <Locutus> indeed. all we can do is play and play and prey
[21:38] <Gilg> Yes.
[21:38] <MartinGuehmann> So the Archer?
[21:39] <Locutus> brb
[21:39] <Gilg> Will it still arive in this turn?
[21:39] * Trip is now known as Trip[gone]
[21:39] <MartinGuehmann> No
[21:39] <Gilg> If they attack and succeed, it wouldn't change a lot........
[21:39] <MartinGuehmann> So keep it there.
[21:40] <Gilg> we have 9 units, correct?
[21:40] <MartinGuehmann> Yes.
[21:40] <Gilg> Move it....maybe even with another Hp
[21:40] <Gilg> if they don't attack we will soon have a 12 stack in MP
[21:41] <Gilg> locutus?
[21:41] <MartinGuehmann> But if they don't attack we don't need it there.
[21:41] <Gilg> Then we can move it back again.......
[21:41] <Gilg> I am not sure in the moment, it already happened to me that such a stack just moved back again, but.........
[21:42] <MartinGuehmann> But then we only have 4 units in CL
[21:42] <Gilg> With no imidiate thread, so what?
[21:42] <MartinGuehmann> Of course if it move back then we don't need the extra unit there either.
[21:43] <Gilg> It is just that a 11 stack could survive the 12 stack........
[21:43] <Gilg> the 9 stack I think won't....
[21:44] <MartinGuehmann> Yeah but it must arrive this turn and not next turn.
[21:44] <Locutus> back
[21:44] <Gilg> This would be the case for sneak attack, but do they really want to do it?
[21:44] <Gilg> Are they at war with the others?
[21:45] <MartinGuehmann> So Locutus should we send another two units to MP?
[21:45] <MartinGuehmann> No wars in that the Germans are currently.
[21:46] <Gilg> doesn't sound good, sounds like a sneak attack.........
[21:46] <Locutus> send as much units to MP as possible. if they don't attack, that will discourage them
[21:46] <Locutus> and fortify any units currently in there...
[21:46] <MartinGuehmann> OK I move two untits to MP now one archer and one hopelite.
[21:46] <MartinGuehmann> from CL.
[21:46] <Gilg> OK, let's pray it helps
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[21:47] <MartinGuehmann> Done and I grouped the new archer in Wels into the defender stack there.
[21:47] <Gilg> OK
[21:48] <MartinGuehmann> Now we have Bait.
[21:48] <MartinGuehmann> I would say one West.
[21:48] <Locutus> move out of celtic borders
[21:48] <Gilg> Where is he?
[21:48] <Locutus> in celtic lands
[21:48] <Gilg> Which colour again?
[21:48] <Gilg> Celts?
[21:48] <Locutus> Brown on my map. dunno about martin though

[21:49] <Locutus> up north, near the English
[21:49] <Gilg> Found him.........West
[21:49] <Gilg> I mean move West
[21:50] <Gilg> Martin would be 'dark blue'?
[21:50] <MartinGuehmann> OK posting a screenshot...
[21:50] <MartinGuehmann> OK I move him West.
[21:51] <MartinGuehmann> Done and we made contact with the English.
[21:51] <Gilg> good
[21:51] <MartinGuehmann> So Locutus?
[21:51] <Gilg> map exchange and treaty?
[21:51] <Locutus> map exchange
[21:52] <Locutus> do they like us?
[21:52] <Locutus> what personality?
[21:52] <MartinGuehmann> They don't like us.
[21:53] <Gilg> What kind of leader?
[21:54] <MartinGuehmann> Personality: High-minded Patriot
[21:54] <MartinGuehmann> Well I had to compare the German and the English GM1_gl_str.txt
[21:54] <Gilg> Why this?
[21:55] <MartinGuehmann> To find out how it is called in the English version.
[21:55] <Locutus> we all speak german, just give us the german name

[21:55] <Gilg> OK.... see what you mean

good point locutus

[21:56] <MartinGuehmann> Well anspruchsvoller Patriot would it be.
[21:56] <Locutus> hmm, well did you do the map exchange yet?
[21:56] <MartinGuehmann> No
[21:57] <MartinGuehmann> So still the map exchange? Request first, meek?
[21:57] <Gilg> Don't think it will work though. Do we want to waste money on those?
[21:57] * Pedrunn has joined #Lemuria
[21:57] <Gilg> Hi Pedrunn
[21:57] <MartinGuehmann> Hi Pedrunn
[21:57] <Locutus> hi pedrunn!
[21:57] <Pedrunn> hi all
[21:57] <Gilg> Martin, IIRC Yes
[21:57] <Locutus> yeah martin
[21:58] <MartinGuehmann> OK doing it.
[21:58] <Pedrunn> Hi things are going?
[21:58] <Gilg> not to good
[21:58] <Locutus> not well, the germans are about to attack
[21:58] <Locutus> see forum
[21:58] <Gilg> they might attack (80%)
[21:58] <MartinGuehmann> Rejected.
[21:58] <Pedrunn> I imagined that
[21:58] <Locutus> thought so. give 100 gold
[21:58] <Pedrunn> since the beginning
[21:59] <Locutus> don't threaten
[21:59] <Locutus> wait, do threaten
[21:59] <Locutus> if it's still possible
[21:59] <MartinGuehmann> Not possible anymore, 100 gold was given.
[21:59] <Locutus> k, that's fine too
[22:00] <MartinGuehmann> So anything left her?
[22:00] <MartinGuehmann> her -> here
[22:00] <Pedrunn> Wanst those troops being in Mapfipolis one turn ago???
[22:00] <Pedrunn> As i ordered
[22:00] <Gilg> yes
[22:00] <Gilg> Shall we rush units near CL?
[22:00] <Pedrunn> I mean the ones between CL and mapfi?
[22:00] <Gilg> rush=rush-buy?
[22:00] <Gilg> we have a 9 stack in MP
[22:01] <MartinGuehmann> We have now 9 units in MP
[22:01] <MartinGuehmann> OK can we continue?
[22:02] <Gilg> wait
[22:02] <Gilg> shall we take out the farmer in MP?
[22:02] <Gilg> that should reduce the production to 1 turn, or?
[22:03] <Locutus> yeah, get rid of the farmer, that's the least we can do...
[22:03] <MartinGuehmann> Removing the farmer and the hopeliet is finished next turn.
[22:03] <Gilg> OK
[22:03] <MartinGuehmann> OK doing it.
[22:03] <MartinGuehmann> OK done.
[22:04] <Gilg> But if I see that the German has Lanzenwhatever...........
[22:04] <MartinGuehmann> So next unit to move would be Goodsight.
[22:04] <MartinGuehmann> Pikeman, Gilg.
[22:04] <Locutus> that's Pikemen, for Pedrunn

[22:05] <Gilg> Thanks
[22:05] <MartinGuehmann> So let's move Goodsight, in his vision rannge we can see a Barbarian, so I post a screenie.
[22:05] <Gilg> Thanks again
[22:07] <MartinGuehmann> Done.
[22:07] <MartinGuehmann> So I don't want to move him North now.
[22:07] <Gilg> NORTH????????? you mean NW, or?
[22:08] <MartinGuehmann> I don't == I do not
[22:08] <Gilg> I mean, we should move him NW, sorry........
[22:08] <MartinGuehmann> Yeah and I agree
[22:08] <Locutus> agree, NW
[22:08] <MartinGuehmann> So Pedrunn?
[22:08] <Locutus> or W?
[22:09] <Pedrunn> No clue. Is there a chance of me having the saved game
[22:09] <Pedrunn> ?
[22:09] <MartinGuehmann> OK saving the game...
[22:09] <Pedrunn> Sorry

[22:10] <Locutus> is that needed? the chat probably won't last long anymore and the screenie is quite clear...
[22:10] <Locutus> oh well, whatever...
[22:10] <Gilg> Locutus, no NW and then W
[22:10] <Locutus> agree
[22:11] <MartinGuehmann> Well I already pressed the submit reply button.
[22:12] <MartinGuehmann> So Pedrunn do you need the game to decide to move?
[22:12] <Pedrunn> you guys can decide this move
[22:13] <MartinGuehmann> OK, NW or W?
[22:13] <Gilg>

[22:13] <Pedrunn> I say not be suicidal
[22:13] <Locutus> nw
[22:13] <Gilg> NW
[22:13] <Pedrunn> NW
[22:13] <MartinGuehmann> I say also NW, so I move it NW now.
[22:13] <Gilg> OK
[22:14] <MartinGuehmann> Done, now I have the 4 size stack near Linz.
[22:15] <Gilg> moving south ?
[22:16] <MartinGuehmann> I am posting a screenshot.
[22:16] <Pedrunn> SW looks better
[22:16] <Pedrunn> doesnt it?
[22:16] <Gilg> just checking...
[22:17] <MartinGuehmann> Well SW and S would be the maximum of benefit I guess.
[22:17] <Locutus> apolyton is slow tonight... must be Iraq
[22:17] <Gilg> Not for me, Locutus
[22:17] <Pedrunn> the war started?
[22:17] <MartinGuehmann> Well it is already posted.
[22:17] <Locutus> any units in the Fog of War we know about?
[22:17] <Gilg> Shall we split the force?
[22:18] <Locutus> no
[22:18] <Pedrunn> dont like the splitting idea
[22:18] <MartinGuehmann> The Barbarian moved North so far no units we know. But I wouldn't splitt the stack.
[22:18] <Gilg> reason: one stack west->SW the other one south
[22:18] <Pedrunn> after all what if there is
[22:18] <Locutus> I say SW and then W
[22:19] <Locutus> over the river
[22:19] <MartinGuehmann> So I go for SW and S
[22:19] <Gilg> Why? that would exploe anything?
[22:19] <Gilg> exploe=explore
[22:19] <Gilg> would=wouldn't
[22:20] <Locutus> that explores 3 tiles by my count...
[22:20] <MartinGuehmann> Yes that would it do if I see it correctly.
[22:20] <Gilg> Sorry, yes you are right, wrong counting from my site
[22:20] <Locutus> but that army shouldn't explore. it should defend the Linz area, be on the lookout for Austrian units
[22:20] <Locutus> exploration would be bonus
[22:20] <Gilg> That's what we do........
[22:20] <Gilg> check the dark and stay close to defend
[22:21] <MartinGuehmann> OK move it SW and W?
[22:21] <Gilg> yep
[22:21] <Pedrunn> yes
[22:21] <Locutus> yes
[22:21] <Pedrunn> not much to talk

[22:21] <MartinGuehmann> Done
[22:22] <MartinGuehmann> OK I have now the stack with the settler in it from H Town it should reach the tile East of the potatoe between Pedrunnia and Linz.
[22:23] <Pedrunn>

grapes
[22:23] <Gilg> sounds good
[22:24] <MartinGuehmann> To reach the Potatoe it would be the best to follow now the river one tile SW.
[22:24] <MartinGuehmann> Any objection?
[22:24] <Gilg> ?????????
[22:24] <MartinGuehmann> objection -> objections
[22:24] <Gilg> Where is it, the stack?
[22:25] <MartinGuehmann> OK I am doing a screenshot.
[22:25] <Locutus> fine
[22:25] <Pedrunn> do the suggested path way
[22:25] <Pedrunn> along he river
[22:27] <MartinGuehmann> Screenshot posted but I go now the path along the river
[22:27] <Gilg> Doesn't change anything, it wouldn't speed the movement.......
[22:28] <Gilg> But do it anyway........
[22:28] <MartinGuehmann> OK next, Unit is PostWarrior, I can see a Barbarian in its sight.
[22:29] <Gilg> Don't attack.........
[22:29] <MartinGuehmann> Actual a little bit too far away.
[22:29] <Pedrunn> I guess it is time for postwarrior to get back to Graz...
[22:30] <MartinGuehmann> I am posting a screenshot.
[22:30] <Pedrunn> or move south wha you think?
[22:30] <MartinGuehmann> And it is there now.
[22:30] <Gilg> not sure..........
[22:30] <Gilg> thanks, just checking
[22:31] <Gilg> one S and check?
[22:31] <MartinGuehmann> Pedrunn?
[22:31] <Locutus> hmm, I say S to recon the Wien area
[22:32] <Pedrunn> we could send a stack to be on the way
[22:32] <Pedrunn> Looks better
[22:32] <Pedrunn> doenst it
[22:32] <Pedrunn> A size 4 stack
[22:32] <MartinGuehmann> Yeah a size 4 stack, 2 A 2 H
[22:33] <Locutus> sounds good
[22:33] <MartinGuehmann> So one West?
[22:33] <Pedrunn> yes
[22:33] <Gilg> OK
[22:33] <MartinGuehmann> I am doing it.
[22:33] <Pedrunn> from Graz
[22:33] <MartinGuehmann> Yes.
[22:33] <Pedrunn> fortify
[22:34] <Pedrunn> and move post warrior SW
[22:34] <Gilg> SW? not S?
[22:34] <Gilg> Or am I with the wrong unit?
[22:34] <Pedrunn> SW is better
[22:35] <Pedrunn> We can see the beginning of the river
[22:35] <Gilg> OK
[22:35] <MartinGuehmann> Done and we see now an Austrian size two stack South of the road tile.
[22:35] <Pedrunn> oh oh
[22:35] <Gilg> size two of what?
[22:35] <Gilg> Samurai?
[22:35] <MartinGuehmann> Yes a Samurai
[22:35] <Pedrunn> Move size 4 stack S and warrior NE
[22:36] <Gilg>

[22:36] <MartinGuehmann> And an Archer.
[22:36] <Pedrunn> Lets meet the two
[22:36] <Pedrunn> armies
[22:36] <Gilg> at least kind of.....
[22:36] <Pedrunn> any objection?
[22:36] <Gilg>

[22:37] <MartinGuehmann> Actual already done.
[22:37] <Pedrunn> good.
[22:37] <MartinGuehmann> I also added the new units in the East to their according defenders.
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[22:37] <Pedrunn> HiH
[22:38] <MartinGuehmann> Welcome back HTower
[22:38] <HTower> woah, this is still going on???

[22:38] <Locutus> well, you know Martin - just as slow as Pedrunn

[22:38] <Gilg> Why not, and we might get bashed by the Germans..........
[22:38] <Locutus> yup, so the chat will end soon
[22:38] <MartinGuehmann> I have now the settler in the East so one South?
[22:39] <Locutus> if they indeed decide to attack
[22:39] <Gilg> yes
[22:39] <Locutus> yeah
[22:39] <Pedrunn> Martin, we do all for this country and this our pay off....
[22:39] <Pedrunn>

[22:40] <MartinGuehmann> OK, fortified the remaining units in CL, no more units to move left.
[22:40] <MartinGuehmann> So anything left to do?
[22:40] <Locutus> don't think so
[22:40] <MartinGuehmann> Gilgamensch?
[22:40] <Gilg> should be it........
[22:41] <MartinGuehmann> End turn now?
[22:41] <Pedrunn> so end turn

[22:41] <Gilg>

yes
[22:41] <Pedrunn> War coming
[22:41] <Gilg>

no
[22:41] <MartinGuehmann> END OF TURN 114