Official: Should we allow TKG's land-raising plan?

Cedayon · March 17, 2003, 12:10

The plan was described in the following pm I received from Our Holy Emperor:

Quote:

my lord DIA,

as part of my constant struggle to improve the mineral productions in all my bases, i have formulated an evil scheme to do just that, but does not involve unethical facilities. yes, that's right, i plan to raise parts of the freshwater sea and Sea of >long M-word<

first of all, UNPD and ZG:

step 1: raise the tile the borehole is on. this raises all adjacent tiles, marked in green. those can be forested.

step 2: raise the tiles in yellow (now land). this makes all the tiles inside the blue area land. this allows me to put boreholes E of ZG and SE SE of UNPD, all the while increasing mineral output because of the forests i'd be creating.

then, down south in Xanadu.
same deal: raise the red tile. this makes the green tiles land

step 2: raise the yellow tile. you get it. more boreholes and forest

as you can see, this leaves all 3 bases still with water access should they need to build ships or whathaveyou. also note that no boreholes will be destroyed as a result of raising land.

all the plan needs is your approval, unless you think something this big needs more discussion or a poll

-=End Transmission=-

This will be a 2 day poll, so that the results will be ready in the event of a wednesday turnchat/turnthread.

The poll options are as follows:
-Yes, allow both sections (FWS and Xanadu) of the plan.
-Yes, but only allow the FWS section of the plan.
-Yes, but only allow the Xanadu section of the plan.
-No, do not allow the plan.
-Write-in
-Xenobanana

Votes for the first option will "count" as votes for the 2nd and 3rd options if "No" does not win clearly.

Once again, you have 2 days.

Main_Brain · March 17, 2003, 16:11

Evil Plan?
Count me in.

moomin · March 17, 2003, 16:30

Rasing land is way cool. Go ahead!

DeathByTheSword · March 17, 2003, 17:39

Drogue · March 17, 2003, 19:02

No, and not just no, hell no

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This will be a 2 day poll

Isn't that unconstitutional? Min poll time is 3 days IIRC?

Maniac · March 17, 2003, 19:12

It was changed some time.

Cedayon · March 17, 2003, 19:22

Quote:

from the constitution:

Official:

May only be started by a government official. Must have official in the subjectline, and must be used as information gathering or decision making

Poll:
*Abstain
*Write-in-option
*Minimum of 2 days
*Maximum of 7 days
*Clear and not biased question and answers

I normally prefer to give at least 3 days, but if we're going to be having a turnchat/turnthread on wednesday...

edit - I voted yes to represent TKG's vote... though I would have voted yes anyway.

Maniac · March 17, 2003, 19:43

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but if we're going to be having a turnchat/turnthread on wednesday...

Well GT hasn't confirmed that yet at all.

And there aren't orders either.

Cedayon · March 17, 2003, 20:01

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Originally posted by Maniac
Well GT hasn't confirmed that yet at all.

And there aren't orders either.

I know, I'm just trying to do my part to be ready. You could hold the chat/thread too, right? If you want to, that is... I think GT wouldn't mind the break from moving all 103 (and counting) of our formers

GeneralTacticus · March 18, 2003, 02:29

I most certainly would not be unhappy about a break from that. Go right ahead with the chat.

Pandemoniak · March 18, 2003, 05:51

/me puts his his luggages on the floor

Suppress 2000 square kilometers of freshwater ? Are you gone nuts ? Where will we find our water for our xenobrew ?

*sigh*

/me goes quickly to Gaian xenobreweries

Jamski · March 18, 2003, 06:12

Grab a six-pack for me Pan.

-Jam

MrWhereItsAt · March 18, 2003, 09:42

If it means more minerals to pump into my beloved Machines of Peace, then of course. Plus if I can still get sea-based Platforms of, er, Life and Construction, then I am happy.

Earwicker · March 18, 2003, 11:09

It seems a waste to lose the food of the freshwater sea, and so many years' chiroforming effort. Instead, why not drop some formers on that island west of Xanadu and raise it up? Start with the southernmost point of the island (thus losing one sea-formed square), then move south and repeat - the process will create a land bridge to the island (which the current plan does not), adding territory to your Region.

Cedayon · March 18, 2003, 14:04

Just so you all know where this is headed (since I was somewhat unclear on how the votes count), the current standing (7-0-2-5) means that:

The vote is split (7-7) on the FWS section of the plan, and
The vote is in favor (9-5) on the Xanadu section of the plan.

Drogue · March 18, 2003, 14:47

Do we need a clear majority to act? ie. if the votes remain tied for thw FWS section, is that a no (since we need a majority to act) or do we leave it up to a particular person (DIA or Commish?)

Pandemoniak · March 18, 2003, 14:48

The tie has to be broken by the DIA.

Cedayon · March 18, 2003, 15:03

Yes, it would fall to me to break the tie if it persisted.

I would break it in favor, but I'd ask that he do the Xanadu section first and/or his little energy park north of DEM, since less terraforming is destroyed in doing those than in the FWS section.

Voltaire · March 18, 2003, 16:10

Go ahead raise the land, I don’t see why not.

Cedayon · March 22, 2003, 12:31

Sorry, forgot to post the results:

It's not complicated, 9 out of 17 voters (more than 50%) voted full yes, so TKG gets to proceed with his plans without further delay.