March 19, 2003, 08:27
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Prince
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Who's been spying on the EU ??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2864063.stm
Bugs have been discovered at EU offices used by the French and Germans !
Le Figaro has blamed the US ..
Any takers ??
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March 19, 2003, 08:28
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The Belgians.
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March 19, 2003, 08:30
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Probably the French themselves, they ahve a myriad of security services and they like to keep tabs on the politicans.
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March 19, 2003, 08:30
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King
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i too blame belgium!
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March 19, 2003, 08:33
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Angloamericans.
They err defocate everywhere.
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March 19, 2003, 08:38
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The evil Finns. Who else could it be?
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March 19, 2003, 08:40
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Settler
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Americans, French and Brits would be the hottest candidates, followed by Rupert Murdoch.
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March 19, 2003, 08:43
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Prince
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Ha ha .. yes, I like the idea of the French spying on themselves 
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March 19, 2003, 08:44
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The French blew up a greenpeace ship, I can't see how they would think bugging the Germans would be a problem
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March 19, 2003, 09:15
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Re: Who's been spying on the EU ??
Bah, no surprise...it's not new that Echelon is used for EU spying, so...
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March 19, 2003, 09:17
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The French, no doubt.  The Britons and Americans never would do this! 
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March 19, 2003, 09:22
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Originally posted by Paul Hanson
The evil Finns. Who else could it be?
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I sense too much knowledge in this one.
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March 19, 2003, 09:23
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If it were us, do you think they'd have found the bugs?
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March 19, 2003, 09:26
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"If it were us, do you think they'd have found the bugs?"
If it were you, would you have anyone to find the correct building to plant the bugs?
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March 19, 2003, 09:29
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Originally posted by Big Crunch
The Belgians.
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We reserve the right to spy on our subordinates.
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March 19, 2003, 09:30
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Warlord
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
If it were us, do you think they'd have found the bugs?
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you have stealth bugs now too? 
Can't see why the British would bug a meeting room when they are involved in the meeting.
I would say blame the Vatican but they don't need bugs with God being the ultimate spy 
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March 19, 2003, 09:35
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Prince
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Yeah, it's the French.   This way if/when the bugs were discovered they can appear as victims, while no one knows they were retrieving the signals through hidden devices in their Eiffel Tower!
1 reason it wouldn't be Germany is...
"Any man who speaks German couldn't be an evil man."
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March 19, 2003, 09:56
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Deity
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Originally posted by Colon
We reserve the right to spy on our subordinates.
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Why would you want to spy on Luxembourg?
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March 19, 2003, 09:59
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Originally posted by HershOstropoler
"If it were us, do you think they'd have found the bugs?"
If it were you, would you have anyone to find the correct building to plant the bugs?
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You think we bombed the Chinese embassy by accident? You're so naive.
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March 19, 2003, 10:02
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Originally posted by Big Crunch
Why would you want to spy on Luxembourg?
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Because that makes us feel powerful. Let us be in our grandstanding illusions, would ya?
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March 19, 2003, 10:02
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You and your damned chocolate duck . . . now I'm jonesing for chocolate.
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March 19, 2003, 10:10
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
You think we bombed the Chinese embassy by accident?
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No.
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March 19, 2003, 10:40
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The French have so many diplomats they need bugs to keep tabs on them
More seriously, if the bugs were in a usual EU-council meeting place, it could be about any EU-State or state interested in the EU : the EU-council is the most influencial place of power in the EU institutions, filled with inner debates where countries privately haggle according to their interests. Only the results of the hagglings are public.
There can be good information to be taken about member countries by listening to their debate.
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March 19, 2003, 10:43
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In that case it's the TURKS!
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March 19, 2003, 10:50
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BBC are saying the British have been bugged too.
It must be the French.
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March 19, 2003, 10:54
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We wuz framed! 
You never know. It could have been the Iraqis. Or we could be framing the Iraqis...
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March 19, 2003, 10:56
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Yeah, Saddam is now worrying about the latest revisions to the EU market regulations for Gherkins for sure.
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March 19, 2003, 10:57
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BBC are saying the British have been bugged too.
It must be the French.
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When have the French not been buging the British.
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March 19, 2003, 10:58
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Good point. You might not be able to tell whether this is a state agency or non-state agency.
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March 19, 2003, 11:02
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King
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When have the French not been buging the British.
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I really do hope it isn't the US though. It might make TB position a littel vulnerable
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