Simcountry: Trading Thread

[Malleus]

At this instant, I am in need of a great many things:

Riis needs:

~650,000 units of cable TV service.
~250,000 units of cheese.
~5000 tons of chocolate
~750000 computers
~25000 units of eggs
~70000 tons of fish
~500000 tons of fruit juice
~225000 tons of meat
~310000 tons of poultry
~400000 units of Shows
~17500 units of wine

I have to offer:

Wood
Bread
Milk
Paper
Clothes
Electricity
Chemicals
Software.

Drop me a line here or in Simcountry. Also, please feel free to post here for your needs!

M

PS - Yes, I have heard the arguments that trading is pointless in the game, but it is a feature I enjoy. Therefore, I will employ it, much like hospitals, which are also useless in the game.

[Az]

Could someone explain to me how the system works? please?

[Colon™]

Anyone wants to buy an electric power utility?

[Skanky Burns]

Malleus: I have offered you a one-shot lot of 400,000 shows.

Azazel: Trading within countries works like this. Every month, the people of your country consume x amount of many different products, like bread, wine, services, gas, etc. If they use more than your country has in stock, the country automatically orders more of that item as an "immediate" purchase - with the increased price tag. If you come along and cancel this order, then the people won't be able to consume that particular item. The next month the computer will order that product again as an immediate purchase.

There are a few ways to deal with the trade system that I can think of:
1) Ignore it. Let the computer order items as immediate and accept that you will be paying quite a bit for all these purchases.

2) Set the computer to order items. This works slightly better than 1, but you will still be getting a few immediate orders due to the computer not being able to buy everything needed each month. They leave purchasing to the last minute.

3) Set 99-month contracts for as many items as you can. This is nearly the cheapest method and has very low micromanagement, excepting of course every 99 months when you need to renew all the contracts.

4) Trade for items as Malleus is doing. This has a high micromanagement component, but can be fun. This method can also be the second cheapest method of dealing with country trade.

5) The Iraq option. Don't ever buy items for the people. When the computer orders items, cancel the order. This is without a doubt the cheapest method considering you won't spend a single $E. It is also a high-micromanagement option, where you have to cancel orders every single month even if the computer is set to not order items. The only way this could be workable is to write a script to cancel the orders for you.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

I got 23 Interceptors to sell (production plant based in Azazaelia) Anyone need some defense?

[Malleus]

I will take interceptors and 10 per month for 10 months if you want to go that route...

Thanks for the entertainment Skanky!

M

[Colon™]

Could someone explain to me why exactly services are in a constant shortage? I've understood it's not very interesting to set up a services corp, but if the market mechanism would work properly price should rise sufficiently to make it worth the while, no?

[Skanky Burns]

Should, but doesn't. I think every few months they artifically inject a few trillion tons of services into the system.

Lawrence I'll take 10 interceptors for 10 months too, at The Empires Slave NoCEOs. Thanks in advance.

[Lemmy]

I've understood it's not very interesting to set up a services corp,

I've got 2 services corps, and they make up most of the profit of my enterprise!

[Skanky Burns]

One of my enterprises (Skanky Enterprise) is made up purely of service companies! Actually, just the one service company. But its net worth is 400B $E now. Not too shabby.

Anyway, service companies should feature heavily in your countries and enterprises. My other enterprise has 10, with another on the way.

[Az]

hey cool! I was wondering who opened that Interceptor plant in my house.

Service corps are very important for my economy. they give stable income, and are very highly priced.

I think I ought to try this trade thing.

[Az]

Lawrence: I am willing to buy 5 interceptors per month, on long range contract.

I would apperciate defencive air-to-air missiles, as well.

[Colon™]

Well, if it is interesting to set up a services corp, then why doesn't shortage disappear? Pretty weird IMHO.

Speaking of services, I'm interested in closing contracts for a total of 2,200,000 units.

Malleus, I'd like to purchase bread, how many crates can you deliver?

[Sandman]

Don't get too enamoured to services. They use up many more workers than the average corp, and there is a services crash every so often.

[Skanky Burns]

The Empire of Drunken Macaque NoCEOs shopping list:
500 defensive interceptors
10,000 air to air missiles (defensive)
Attack helicopters (many)
Offensive helicopter land missiles (more than you can produce )
Cruise Missiles

These can be either one-shot deals or provided over many months. Currently I am fine with regards to civilian products.

The Empires Slave NoCEOs
100 inteceptors Thanks!
2,000 defensive helicopters
910 air to air missiles (defensive)
19,300 heli land missiles (defensive)

I'll cross things off this list when the contracts are signed.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

OK the first three people who asked gets them. 10 to Malleus, 10 to Skanky and the remaining three to Azazel. Setting it up now.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Malleus, i need the name of your country

[Lawrence of Arabia]

If there is a steady demand for one type of defensive production, I will build that. Make requests here too.

[Colon™]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
The Empire of Drunken Macaque NoCEOs shopping list:
500 defensive interceptors
10,000 air to air missiles (defensive)
Attack helicopters (many)
Offensive helicopter land missiles (more than you can produce )

These can be either one-shot deals or provided over many months. Currently I am fine with regards to civilian products.

The Empires Slave NoCEOs
100 inteceptors Thanks!
2,000 defensive helicopters (mentioned to Colon in another thread)
910 air to air missiles (defensive)
19,300 heli land missiles (defensive)

I'll cross things off this list when the contracts are signed.

I can sell max 55 choppers a month, it would only take you 3 years to go to 2000.
But it seems better I'd sell you 30/month and that you get an additional supplier, unless you're really that patient.

I offered you a contract for 50 LB cruise missiles/month, for 24 months. (if you prefer another time period, feel free to decline)

[Lawrence of Arabia]

I'm going to pay off my debts first and then expand to more companies.

[Az]

Anyone in the bussiness for Production plants?

[Malleus]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
Malleus, i need the name of your country

Riis

M

[Datajack Franit]

You know, Malleus sounds like some kind of knee disease

[Malleus]

Malleus = Latin for "hammer."

You have one in your ear.

Ok, on topic...I need defensive ammo and equipment. Anybody want to set me up?

Colon: How many units of bread do you need? It's not really making money right now...
It's max production in my employment-crisis country is: 171,000

I currently have 404,000 in stock...

M

[Lawrence of Arabia]

i have a problem. when i sell it to you guys directly, i lose money.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

i'm going to have to renogociate the contracts with you guys. it will become more expensive. probably around 1 Million more expensive per plane. tell me if you are interested.

[Az]

no problem with that. I'll just have to raise that ol' tax rate, to pay for the expences.

seriously ,lawrence, I am sorry about the tax, I just really need the money for that war I am preparing.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

yeah no problem. what is it at now your tax?

[Lawrence of Arabia]

holy ****. 45%? damn

[Giovanni Wine]

Still better than me, I have a 70% taxation.

But in exchange state and national corps don't need to give me any additional payment , I want all corps in my country to pay the same to my government

Saluti