Something That May Be Worth Protesting

SlowwHand · March 26, 2003, 14:48

Following the disasters of 9/11, many government agencies caught Hell for not communicating between agencies, and a perceived lack of awareness.

The FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) began questioning many Arab-Americans.
That trend continues today, with a focus currently on Iraqi-Americans.
Having a Radical, emphasis on Radical, Muslim frag his fellow American soldiers, doesn't help.

This is eerily remeniscient of Japanese internment during WW II, which most Americans consider a terrible blotch on our Human Rights record.

If this type of inquisition increases, correction, continues,
I feel there is a legitimate basis for Protests.

I would expect anyone who grasps the concept of what makes this country great to agree, and be watchful.

Consider this a Public Service Announcement.
God Bless America, in it's entirety.

nationalist · March 26, 2003, 14:56

I don't see anything wrong with this. They aren't shooting these suspects, they're questioning them. The enemy is racial-profiling. Doesn't it make sense if we do as well?

My Wife Hates CIV · March 26, 2003, 14:59

kick them all out of the US for all I care.

Japher · March 26, 2003, 14:59

Sloww, you make me sad.

If the US were to begin interming Iraqi-Americans, than yes I may protest, but to question Iraqi's livining in the US and to question Iraqi-Americans is not worth protesting. Sorry if you feel it is harrassment, but everyone gets harrassed for something. If it is because you are of a certain nationality than so be it. Especially of a nationality that we are currently at war with, and which is known to use unscrupulous tactics.

We are only covering our a$$e$$ and should be doing so.

SlowwHand · March 26, 2003, 15:02

It's one step at a time, Japher.

And "only racial profiling" ?
Come on, buddy. Get with the program.

Japher · March 26, 2003, 15:05

I am a firm supporter of racial profiling, but that is for another day.

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It's one step at a time, Japher.

There is a fine line between walking the line and crossing the line.

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If this type of inquisition increases, correction, continues,
I feel there is a legitimate basis for Protests.

I don't care if continues, but if increases I am with you.

Jac de Molay · March 26, 2003, 15:06

Questioning is useless and a waste of time. I would think the few Iraqi americans that are here are trying to be as far away from saddam as possible, not help him.

What's next? Questioning and detaining saudis because the 9/11 hijackers were mostly saudi. Surveillance on mosques and Iraqi social/ political gatherings?

Errrr....never mind.

SlowwHand · March 26, 2003, 15:10

A breeze can become a gale in a very short amount of time.

FrustratedPoet · March 26, 2003, 15:22

It is indeed a slippery slope and I agree wholeheartedly with Sloww.

SlowwHand · March 26, 2003, 15:30

Frankly, I'm astounded that any would disagree with this at all; and I'm called a "Red-neck Cracker" by some ?

FrustratedPoet · March 26, 2003, 15:33

The same thought occured to me. I was saddened to see you having to fight to try and make your point.

This only goes to show that the issue really is worth protesting, not just to appeal to the government, but to the regular guy in the street who thinks that "Lock up the brown guys" is a sound anti-terror policy.

Jac de Molay · March 26, 2003, 15:41

Detroit has the largest concentration of arabs outside of the middle east. There have been these "spectacular" terror busts, that have been splashed all over the front pages, of groups of young men being picked up as suspected terrorists.

Unfortunately, there is little follow up as to their whereabouts or what even what they specifically did wrong for that matter.

Guynemer · March 26, 2003, 15:48

Let alone news about their trials...

I'm sure DD would agree, things have been extra-surreal around here lately.

nationalist · March 26, 2003, 15:51

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Frankly, I'm astounded that any would disagree with this at all; and I'm called a "Red-neck Cracker" by some ?

I'm also a "backwoods redneck". Maybe the difference is in age. I think that younger people are more apt to take extremist solutions to problems.

PLATO · March 26, 2003, 15:58

I was under the impression that the interviews with Iraqi-Americans were voluntary in nature. If not, then I agree with Sloww. We cannot sacrifice our libertys to protect them. (P.S.-Have you written your Congressman yet to protest the "Patriot Act"?)

Nubclear · March 26, 2003, 16:01

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Following the disasters of 9/11, many government agencies caught Hell for not communicating between agencies, and a perceived lack of awareness.

The FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) began questioning many Arab-Americans.
That trend continues today, with a focus currently on Iraqi-Americans.
Having a Radical, emphasis on Radical, Muslim frag his fellow American soldiers, doesn't help.

This is eerily remeniscient of Japanese internment during WW II, which most Americans consider a terrible blotch on our Human Rights record.

If this type of inquisition increases, correction, continues,
I feel there is a legitimate basis for Protests.

I would expect anyone who grasps the concept of what makes this country great to agree, and be watchful.

This is just wrong.

SlowwHand · March 26, 2003, 16:10

I don't know where to even begin with you, Tass.

All the possibilities that exist.

DeathByTheSword · March 26, 2003, 16:11

I fully agree with tassardar on this.....

Dauphin · March 26, 2003, 16:12

Its bad, but I don't think its any worse than the still common racism against blacks in many parts of the US.

SlowwHand · March 26, 2003, 16:14

Tassadar? Tassadar has a Persian cat.

That little cat is next.

Paul Hanson · March 26, 2003, 16:16

Hang on here. From what I can gather, Sloww is making the case the racial profiling is a bad thing, and people are disagreeing with him?

Words fail me.

Japher · March 26, 2003, 16:17

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Questioning is useless and a waste of time. I would think the few Iraqi americans that are here are trying to be as far away from saddam as possible, not help him.

Than why not assume the other way? That those here are here because the want to harm America from the inside out. Kind of like that Islamic Soldier we had throw a grenade into his own camp...

They are not being peranoid, just cautious. With boarders as lose as ours something has to be done to ensure the safety of it's public.

Nubclear · March 26, 2003, 16:17

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Tassadar? Tassadar has a Persian cat.

That little cat is next.

(Hmm......Remember Slowwhand, I just agreed with you!!!

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Bow down to the brilliant, glorious radiance of MISTY!!!!

Nubclear · March 26, 2003, 16:19

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Originally posted by Paul Hanson
Hang on here. From what I can gather, Sloww is making the case the racial profiling is a bad thing, and people are disagreeing with him?

Words fail me.

Yeah, it is pretty sad

SlowwHand · March 26, 2003, 16:21

Sorry, Tassadar.
I misinterpreted.

For those that continue to disagree, maybe you'll change your minds when a bank is held up, and they question all Jews; or if a Tavern is robbed, and all the Irish are interviewed.

Profiling? Nah. Nothing wrong with profiling.

Japher · March 26, 2003, 16:25

Sloww doesn't want to see profiling turn into genocide or some kind of interment situation. Neither do I.

For the most part I haven;t seen this. Most of the outlash by the public has been towards the government and not towards the Islams or Iraqis. Unlike in WWII.

I really think we learned our lesson then, and it will not happen this time.

SlowwHand · March 26, 2003, 16:34

Governments, are not the one's being interviewed.

nationalist · March 26, 2003, 17:17

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Originally posted by SlowwHand

For those that continue to disagree, maybe you'll change your minds when a bank is held up, and they question all Jews; or if a Tavern is robbed, and all the Irish are interviewed.

Profiling? Nah. Nothing wrong with profiling.

If there was a rash of terror attacks made by Skinheads, then I wouldn't mind if white men with buzzcuts (myself included) were watched a bit more carefully.

Jac de Molay · March 26, 2003, 17:32

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Than why not assume the other way? That those here are here because the want to harm America from the inside out. Kind of like that Islamic Soldier we had throw a grenade into his own camp...

Because that's not the truth of the matter- the majority of Iraqis in country think Saddam is scum like the rest of Americans.

Why disaffect an entire community even more by engaging in a pointless act of singling them out and questioning them?. The ones who are guilty aren't going to talk no matter what. The ones that are innocent feel that much more stigmatized.

I 've been seeing this happen firsthand among friends and neighbors. It's not pretty (or useful)

Straybow · March 26, 2003, 18:01

I agree. We shouldn't be doing any racial profiling, it should be ideological profiling. We should be watching all muslims and separatists and learn what cues are genuine signs of ideologies typical of known terrorists.

Any muslim should be glad to point out what differentiates their beliefs from the whackos, and glad to point out the known whackos. They should be weeding those guys out themselves.