March 29, 2003, 14:51
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More good news in the world... Mystery bug doctor dies
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The World Health Organisation expert who first identified the mystery pneumonia that has claimed dozens of lives has himself died of the disease, the UN agency has announced.
Dr Carlo Urbani, a 46-year-old Italian and an expert on communicable diseases, had identified Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in an American businessman admitted to hospital in Vietnam in February. ...
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Bad enough, but it gets worse...
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However in China, where the outbreak has killed at least 30 people, the communist regime is enforcing a media blackout, apparently concerned that news of the disease will cause panic.
Chinese authorities have come under widespread fire for their secretive handling of SARS.
They have continued to stall on granting permission for a group of WHO doctors to visit the south of the country, where China's first cases of the virus appeared.
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Let's deal with a problem by preventing people from knowing about it or talking about it... la de da de da...
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March 29, 2003, 14:57
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Re: More good news in the world... Mystery bug doctor dies
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Let's deal with a problem by preventing people from knowing about it or talking about it... la de da de da...
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Sometimes I think that China is on the path to Superpower status, but other times........
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March 29, 2003, 14:59
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12 Monkeys.
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March 29, 2003, 15:00
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bu huu... now that sounds scary  some weird times ahead if this disease spreads as it could.
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March 29, 2003, 15:12
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Well, we would have to wait for more cases in places like Canada or Europe to give it "12 monkey" status.
This does make it cloear our battle with illness is far from won, if ever.
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March 29, 2003, 15:20
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12 monkeys. that was a great movie.
But indeed, as disturbing as it seems, fortunately, it is has not spread to far and wide. *knocks on wood*
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March 29, 2003, 15:33
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Fortunately, this illness is far to be as contagious as the 12 Monkeys one. However, it's still very dangerous.
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March 30, 2003, 14:05
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Hasn't someone in Swansea died of it?
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March 30, 2003, 14:23
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on the "plus" side, natural population control in china.... although i'm sure the families of the deceased would not agree
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March 30, 2003, 14:28
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china already has population control
the millions of babies aborted
and the ratio of men to women
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March 30, 2003, 14:32
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key word,
natural population control
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March 30, 2003, 14:48
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Here's a pretty comprehensive article, with focus on the US (it being Atlanta, and all)...
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/new...0sarsmain.html
China decides to help track the disease, but then puts it on hold for several days while they install an electronic tracking system.
Luckily, the CDC likely will have an antibody detector to isolate real cases of the disease.
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March 30, 2003, 14:53
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 That's the most piss-poor argument I heard for quite some time. so this is better than controlled child-birth, because it's natural?  Would you prefer the epidemic to work as population control, or the governmental program? Remember, the governmental program is not natural! It doesn't create sickness and suffering!
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March 30, 2003, 15:08
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Yeesh. From the article, it sounds like Metro Toronto isn't a happy place to be right now. Two hospitals closed, three under restricted movement, all volunteer, patient transfer, and visitor programmes shut down.
Oh, and thousands of people under quarantine.
*scratches off Hong Kong, Guangzhou, and Chinatown Toronto from visitation list*
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March 30, 2003, 15:10
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It kills about 4% of its victims. While high, it's not in the 1918 Flu/Bubonic Plague range. Like the 1918 flu, however, it seems to be targetting adults. Well, ain't **** I can do about it so
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Edit: The 1918 Spanish Flu had a mortality rate of 2.5%.
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March 30, 2003, 15:30
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Edit: The 1918 Spanish Flu had a mortality rate of 2.5%.
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It killed more Americans than all of America's wars put together up to that point. Are you sure you have the percentage right?
Historical note, my great-great-uncle died of the Spanish Flu.
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Google says that 28% of Americans contracted the Spanish Flu. 635,000 died.
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How many of us were there at the time?
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March 30, 2003, 15:52
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100 million or so. So that squares.
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You're right.
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So this thing is more deadly than the Spanish flu. loooooovely.
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Damn, this SUCKS
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March 30, 2003, 19:16
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Only you get it.
Or a friend of yours gets it.
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March 30, 2003, 23:40
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Well, we would have to wait for more cases in places like Canada or Europe to give it "12 monkey" status.
This does make it cloear our battle with illness is far from won, if ever.
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I'm pretty sure we've got a handle on it now.
Ontario Public Health has gone schizoid and has quarantined a couple of thousand people for 10 days...
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Originally posted by Azazel
That's the most piss-poor argument I heard for quite some time. so this is better than controlled child-birth, because it's natural? Would you prefer the epidemic to work as population control, or the governmental program? Remember, the governmental program is not natural! It doesn't create sickness and suffering!
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I get the feeling he was joking
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March 31, 2003, 01:51
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you can never know around here.
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March 31, 2003, 03:34
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He is Doctor Evil, after all.
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March 31, 2003, 05:56
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Originally posted by Caesar the Great
on the "plus" side, natural population control in china.... although i'm sure the families of the deceased would not agree
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It's an idiotic comment. Anyone who says this is a fool. What's next? Is he going to claim the Iraq War is a great way to reduce the size of the US military?
People are panicking in Hong Kong. All work stopped in my office after a rumour started that someone (or her mother, or her mother-in-law) had got the virus.
I've been telling people not to worry, but no success so far.
Any advice about how to calm people about this virus?
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