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Old May 15, 2003, 14:55   #211
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Excellent, I knew we lacked a zampolit (political officer), in which case
Comrade Kanzlereisky for Secretariat of the NKVD!!!
To ensure the fascist dogs do not infiltrate our highest echelons...
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Old May 15, 2003, 15:04   #212
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Why dont you guys make sure you run for the Politburo first, then the General Secretary, whom you will chose from those elected can make the appropritae appointments.
Comrade Sorokin how long do we intend to conduct debate on this issue. I feel that the proletariet is getting restless.....
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how about a 3 day vote, up or down on the new form of government? Then we can get to nominations etc, etc.
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Seems good, but we should make a different thread for these political debates, because now it gets spread between other things.
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Seems good, but we should make a different thread for these political debates, because now it gets spread between other things.
Yes I agree once the poll/vote is opened we should continue the debate there. And give the Stavka thread back to Stavka!
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Well I did say seem. That means I think but Im not quite sure. And sorry if you took offense. But thats the impression you gave me when I was the Marshall.

However with that being said I will withdraw the comment.
be sure, I haven't had the intention at any single time to treat without respect
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be sure, I haven't had the intention at any single time to treat without respect
I apologize and withdraw the comment OK?
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OK, i won't keep going with this
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OK, i won't keep going with this
Great

I dont think H would appreciate it if we kept it up.
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I think I have a compromise worked out:

Politburo: has all the ministers and deputy ministers on it as well as normal citizens (I think we can go with a number high as 12 here if we want to, as it would get more people involved). They are elected once a year, though if there is a referendum put forth by the community, they can be removed earlier. Out of the Politburo, they select among themselves someone who will be Chairman who won't have a larger vote (one vote, one man) but is just there to organize and keep things running smoothly. The politburo themselves can rotate every 6 months for this position or however they choose it should be decided.

Marshall: selected by general elections in the community. Can be removed in a coup by a majority in the Politburo with a 2/3 majority in STAVKA; or just by a unanimous decision by STAVKA.

STAVKA: is composed of and only all the front commanders. The marshall appoints the commanders BUT it must be confirmed by the Politburo. The Marshall can remove commanders BUT it must be confirmed again by the Politburo.


How does that sound?
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Crap Anzac this sounds fine but H already launched the Poll.

Talk to H if he likes it and would like to incorporate it into the poll I have no problem with it.

The only thing I dont agree on is number three. I think the Marshall should have the call on whether all the commanders are on STAVKA or not. And if he wants someone who is not a front commander on STAVKA that should be his call.

The reason being is he is being held RESPONSIBLE for the conduct of the war. If one front commander is weak or if he has an expert who is not a Front Commander he should be able to appoint them to his council.

heres the poll: Lets transfer the discussion there, OK?

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=86127
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Now THAT is a Marshall who loves the people!

Ah, vodka...
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That never happened


Cyrion, are you joining our little game now? Or just making up lies about the Marshal? I may have to keep an eye on this trouble maker

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Now, now, comrade Marshal, we all need some time of from time to time! Drinking some bottles of Vodka is nothing to be ashamed of. Next time, don't try to hide it, just come to my appartement, I have some very good bottles for a true Communist

You see, no point in trying to hide things from the Party! We see, hear and know everything!
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Cyrion, are you joining our little game now? Or just making up lies about the Marshal? I may have to keep an eye on this trouble maker
Hm, not joining yet... Not having enough time to get really involved in it!

But be assured that I read every post, and that I'll keep commenting on some...

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Marshal announcement concerning the Armaments Ministry
Today, I have accepted the resignation of our Armaments Minister. He has not shown the proper respect for the party and the struggle against the facicsts that is expected of all of those who fight for the Rodina. Siblingov was given 24 hours to respond to a message from the Marshal. He failed to respond. Although truth be told, he has been ignoring the Marshal for nearly two weeks. This will no longer occur however.


In place of Siblingov, I have appointed Stefanovich Ivan Knapovich (conmcb25) to fill in until elections take place sometime in the new future for the new government
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I of course stand ready to serve the Rodina Comrade, turn up by 0200 GMT tomorrow.
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To all comrades.

I am sorry my duties were not fufilled while at my post as the Armament Minister.

I am beset with a ton of illustration work in my off-line life, (I am a graphic designer),
and added to this is my time devoted to CIV2 scenarios.

What this means is that I am snowed-under with debt-clearing, paying work, and other stuff...
I simply could not fit all activities into the small amount of hours per day afforded to me.

Sorry comrades, there is little a guy can do when his offline life becomes hectic.

Please think of me as I toil here in a salt mine in Siberia.
*gets hit with a rifle-butt by a guard*

I am still loyal to the rodina and our marshall, and I am certain the final battle will be in our favour!

Forgive my weakness!
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We see that you are doing some work now, comrade We might consider bringing you back to Moscow, but we will keep an eye on you for the rest of your life! One false move, and back to the Gulag

Out of character: I understand you, I think we all do. Soon my exams will start, and then I will also have less time to come here. We should be able to put real life in pause mode from time to time
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Do any of the Front commanders feel they need to have the depth of their front expanded to the rear? It has been some months now and it is possible that you wish to prepare defensive positions farther back of the line.
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well, If Saransk is not at my front yet I want it
I'm already using them as city of my front,
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Whoah! it appears that either of two things happened, either the first post never got updated, or the marshal has been slacking, and we know which one it is of course

Murmansk Front Streches from Viipuri to Murmansk and includes convoy duty from the U.K. to Murmansk UNCHANGED

Baltic Front Defends Novgorod, Luga, Leningrad, Tikhvin, Knapovichgrad and Cherepovets. CHANGED

Northwest Front Defends Demynask, Kalinin, Yaroslav and Vologda. CHANGED

Belorussian Front Defends Vitebsk, Smolensk, Zangalov, Kaluga and Tula. CHANGED

1st Ukrainian Front Defends Kharkov, Belgorod, Kursk, Serafimovich, Saransk, Saratov and Voronezh. CHANGED

2nd Ukrainian Front Defends Perekop, Kerch, Sevestopol, Rostov, Kotelnikov, Stalingrad, Krasnodar, Novorossiysk, Batum and Astrakhan. CHANGED

Joint Command of Gomel, Bryansk and Orel is shared by the Belorussian Front and the 1st Ukranian Front


I am of course willing to listen to arguments about who should control what city.

Colwyn, would you please update the first post in this thread to the current responsibilities.
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Thank you for handing over more cities to my front
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What about the units I have homed to the murmansk front in Tikhvin?

I'd move them as the city is mine, but the units are still homed to the murmansk front and I don't really need them currently (though I could allways use them but that's another thing ).
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Our best shot to keep Gomel, bryansk and the other cities there is that everybody uses all the red armies he can spare. That way we get partisans in that region, and we might be able to keep the cities throughout the summer. One killed red army gives us two partisans! We need the troops. Maybe other front commanders can set up a barter with Colwyn where they exchange one of their red armies against a partisan, and Colwyn gets the second. That way, both win!
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Gomel and Byranks will not hold. I agree we should use the Red Armies to get partisans, and make a show of holding the cities to try for a few summer months so reinforcements do not spawn, but their summer invasion will be vast, and these cities will be overrun.
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I normally even don't try to keep them this long, i usually withdraw to the Don, Smolensk, Vitebsk and Kalinin. I draw the line there, but that usually means I can't afford to loose one single city. We now still can trade cities for time one certain places. We should however make sure we can keep Orel, Tula and Kaluga in case we loose Gomel and Bryansk, because else there will be a huge gap in our defense line. We might consider building some back-up cities in this region
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the don't believe in the party!!! to the gulag with them

now seriously, let's see what happen, I think we've done enough wonderfull things until this very moment,
who thought kiev was going to hold for so long?
who thought that we could have a defensive line at Smolensk, Vitebsk, Perekop... without the UK airlift cheat?

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