May 15, 2003, 14:55
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Excellent, I knew we lacked a zampolit (political officer), in which case
Comrade Kanzlereisky for Secretariat of the NKVD!!!
To ensure the fascist dogs do not infiltrate our highest echelons...
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May 15, 2003, 15:04
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Deity
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Why dont you guys make sure you run for the Politburo first, then the General Secretary, whom you will chose from those elected can make the appropritae appointments.
Comrade Sorokin how long do we intend to conduct debate on this issue. I feel that the proletariet is getting restless.....
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May 15, 2003, 15:57
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how about a 3 day vote, up or down on the new form of government? Then we can get to nominations etc, etc.
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May 15, 2003, 16:09
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Seems good, but we should make a different thread for these political debates, because now it gets spread between other things.
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May 15, 2003, 16:18
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Originally posted by Bossy20000
Seems good, but we should make a different thread for these political debates, because now it gets spread between other things.
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Yes I agree once the poll/vote is opened we should continue the debate there. And give the Stavka thread back to Stavka!
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May 15, 2003, 16:47
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Originally posted by conmcb25
Well I did say seem. That means I think but Im not quite sure. And sorry if you took offense. But thats the impression you gave me when I was the Marshall.
However with that being said I will withdraw the comment.
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be sure, I haven't had the intention at any single time to treat without respect
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May 15, 2003, 16:48
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Originally posted by Shaka Naldur
be sure, I haven't had the intention at any single time to treat without respect
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I apologize and withdraw the comment OK?
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May 15, 2003, 17:04
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OK, i won't keep going with this
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May 15, 2003, 17:43
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Originally posted by Shaka Naldur
OK, i won't keep going with this
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Great
I dont think H would appreciate it if we kept it up.
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May 15, 2003, 17:59
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I think I have a compromise worked out:
Politburo: has all the ministers and deputy ministers on it as well as normal citizens (I think we can go with a number high as 12 here if we want to, as it would get more people involved). They are elected once a year, though if there is a referendum put forth by the community, they can be removed earlier. Out of the Politburo, they select among themselves someone who will be Chairman who won't have a larger vote (one vote, one man) but is just there to organize and keep things running smoothly. The politburo themselves can rotate every 6 months for this position or however they choose it should be decided.
Marshall: selected by general elections in the community. Can be removed in a coup by a majority in the Politburo with a 2/3 majority in STAVKA; or just by a unanimous decision by STAVKA.
STAVKA: is composed of and only all the front commanders. The marshall appoints the commanders BUT it must be confirmed by the Politburo. The Marshall can remove commanders BUT it must be confirmed again by the Politburo.
How does that sound?
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May 15, 2003, 18:06
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Crap Anzac this sounds fine but H already launched the Poll.
Talk to H if he likes it and would like to incorporate it into the poll I have no problem with it.
The only thing I dont agree on is number three. I think the Marshall should have the call on whether all the commanders are on STAVKA or not. And if he wants someone who is not a front commander on STAVKA that should be his call.
The reason being is he is being held RESPONSIBLE for the conduct of the war. If one front commander is weak or if he has an expert who is not a Front Commander he should be able to appoint them to his council.
heres the poll: Lets transfer the discussion there, OK?
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=86127
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May 16, 2003, 02:20
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Last edited by H Tower; May 16, 2003 at 12:30.
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May 16, 2003, 02:37
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May 16, 2003, 03:11
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That never happened
Cyrion, are you joining our little game now? Or just making up lies about the Marshal? I may have to keep an eye on this trouble maker
Last edited by H Tower; May 16, 2003 at 12:35.
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May 16, 2003, 12:44
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Now, now, comrade Marshal, we all need some time of from time to time! Drinking some bottles of Vodka is nothing to be ashamed of. Next time, don't try to hide it, just come to my appartement, I have some very good bottles for a true Communist
You see, no point in trying to hide things from the Party! We see, hear and know everything!
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May 16, 2003, 17:45
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Originally posted by H Tower
Cyrion, are you joining our little game now? Or just making up lies about the Marshal? I may have to keep an eye on this trouble maker
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Hm, not joining yet... Not having enough time to get really involved in it!
But be assured that I read every post, and that I'll keep commenting on some...
Nazdarovie
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May 17, 2003, 15:03
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Marshal announcement concerning the Armaments Ministry
Today, I have accepted the resignation of our Armaments Minister. He has not shown the proper respect for the party and the struggle against the facicsts that is expected of all of those who fight for the Rodina. Siblingov was given 24 hours to respond to a message from the Marshal. He failed to respond. Although truth be told, he has been ignoring the Marshal for nearly two weeks. This will no longer occur however.
In place of Siblingov, I have appointed Stefanovich Ivan Knapovich (conmcb25) to fill in until elections take place sometime in the new future for the new government
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May 17, 2003, 15:08
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I of course stand ready to serve the Rodina Comrade, turn up by 0200 GMT tomorrow.
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May 19, 2003, 14:51
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To all comrades.
I am sorry my duties were not fufilled while at my post as the Armament Minister.
I am beset with a ton of illustration work in my off-line life, (I am a graphic designer),
and added to this is my time devoted to CIV2 scenarios.
What this means is that I am snowed-under with debt-clearing, paying work, and other stuff...
I simply could not fit all activities into the small amount of hours per day afforded to me.
Sorry comrades, there is little a guy can do when his offline life becomes hectic.
Please think of me as I toil here in a salt mine in Siberia.
*gets hit with a rifle-butt by a guard*
I am still loyal to the rodina and our marshall, and I am certain the final battle will be in our favour!
Forgive my weakness!
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
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May 19, 2003, 15:19
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We see that you are doing some work now, comrade We might consider bringing you back to Moscow, but we will keep an eye on you for the rest of your life! One false move, and back to the Gulag
Out of character: I understand you, I think we all do. Soon my exams will start, and then I will also have less time to come here. We should be able to put real life in pause mode from time to time
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May 19, 2003, 16:30
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Or save
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May 19, 2003, 17:10
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Do any of the Front commanders feel they need to have the depth of their front expanded to the rear? It has been some months now and it is possible that you wish to prepare defensive positions farther back of the line.
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May 19, 2003, 17:15
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well, If Saransk is not at my front yet I want it
I'm already using them as city of my front,
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May 19, 2003, 17:54
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Whoah! it appears that either of two things happened, either the first post never got updated, or the marshal has been slacking, and we know which one it is of course
Murmansk Front Streches from Viipuri to Murmansk and includes convoy duty from the U.K. to Murmansk UNCHANGED
Baltic Front Defends Novgorod, Luga, Leningrad, Tikhvin, Knapovichgrad and Cherepovets. CHANGED
Northwest Front Defends Demynask, Kalinin, Yaroslav and Vologda. CHANGED
Belorussian Front Defends Vitebsk, Smolensk, Zangalov, Kaluga and Tula. CHANGED
1st Ukrainian Front Defends Kharkov, Belgorod, Kursk, Serafimovich, Saransk, Saratov and Voronezh. CHANGED
2nd Ukrainian Front Defends Perekop, Kerch, Sevestopol, Rostov, Kotelnikov, Stalingrad, Krasnodar, Novorossiysk, Batum and Astrakhan. CHANGED
Joint Command of Gomel, Bryansk and Orel is shared by the Belorussian Front and the 1st Ukranian Front
I am of course willing to listen to arguments about who should control what city.
Colwyn, would you please update the first post in this thread to the current responsibilities.
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May 19, 2003, 18:05
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Thank you for handing over more cities to my front
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May 20, 2003, 02:35
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What about the units I have homed to the murmansk front in Tikhvin?
I'd move them as the city is mine, but the units are still homed to the murmansk front and I don't really need them currently (though I could allways use them but that's another thing ).
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May 20, 2003, 04:19
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Our best shot to keep Gomel, bryansk and the other cities there is that everybody uses all the red armies he can spare. That way we get partisans in that region, and we might be able to keep the cities throughout the summer. One killed red army gives us two partisans! We need the troops. Maybe other front commanders can set up a barter with Colwyn where they exchange one of their red armies against a partisan, and Colwyn gets the second. That way, both win!
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May 20, 2003, 23:15
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Gomel and Byranks will not hold. I agree we should use the Red Armies to get partisans, and make a show of holding the cities to try for a few summer months so reinforcements do not spawn, but their summer invasion will be vast, and these cities will be overrun.
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May 21, 2003, 06:41
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I normally even don't try to keep them this long, i usually withdraw to the Don, Smolensk, Vitebsk and Kalinin. I draw the line there, but that usually means I can't afford to loose one single city. We now still can trade cities for time one certain places. We should however make sure we can keep Orel, Tula and Kaluga in case we loose Gomel and Bryansk, because else there will be a huge gap in our defense line. We might consider building some back-up cities in this region
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May 21, 2003, 14:22
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the don't believe in the party!!! to the gulag with them
now seriously, let's see what happen, I think we've done enough wonderfull things until this very moment,
who thought kiev was going to hold for so long?
who thought that we could have a defensive line at Smolensk, Vitebsk, Perekop... without the UK airlift cheat?
believe in the party
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