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Old March 30, 2003, 03:42   #1
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How the *$^*# do I slow population growth?
My new nation, Dakmoristan, has existed like a day and already the population is up by a million. (I did notice this the first time around, but I never mentioned it.) I don't know if this has been discussed previously, but I was wondering if there was any way to control the rate at which your population increases. I just want to be a small country this time!
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Old March 30, 2003, 05:18   #2
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I think if you have bad policies (like low freedoms and economy) then the growth is slower.
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I don't think it's possible. Just declare the NS population figures to be a bureaucratic error by the UN, and invent your own.
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consdier that a day=1 year and it makes some sense.
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You can affect the rate of growth. Two countries started at the same time, but with different policies, will have a different population level after a certain amount of days.
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consdier that a day=1 year and it makes some sense.
8 to 9 million is a what, 12% population growth figure? Even the bad nations on our planet range from 3-6%!

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Old April 3, 2003, 03:16   #7
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Just assume the deficit is immigration from the huge numbers of nations that cease to exist every day.
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Ah, I didn't think of that!
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My population is now 511 million, despite it being concentrated in cities of around 25 miles sqaured.

Population problems?
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Actually, as it gets higher, the % growth rate slows. Mine grows at about 10-15 Million per day (year in game time) or just over 1%.

You can affect it, but I have no idea how. I just seem to affect it thr right way
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Another question: If you tell it not to send new issues in the settings area, how does it affect population growth and other statistics?
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I think it will slow it. Population might could well be based on activity. No-one is quite sure though.
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Here's hoping that some of the recoding Max is going to do with the original nationstates sometime soon will allow for issues that actually directly influence the population control levels.
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Great idea Archaic. I want the biggest nation
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Until 50 Mio. nations grow regulary, I've controlled that. After that, hmmm, maybe a question of healthcare and mortilaty rate ?

-10 mio: 1 mio per day
- 20: 2
-30: 3
-40: 4
-50: 5

Maybe until 100 Mio it was regulary too and grow after the same pattern.
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I doubt it, mine didnt't grow that regularly. It was at 2 mill per day when it hit 12 million, and at 50 million it was going up 5 or 6 per day, yet at 500 million it only grew at 9 or 10 per day, and still the same at 1200 million now.
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No, i meant till the size of 10 mio it grows 1 per day and so on, and after 50 or 100 mio the growth is unregulary.
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Quite possibly. Certainly seems to end up quite like that. Of course, before about 50 million, most nations have not passed enough to alter it much anyway.
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But yes, with 2 issues per day i almost had all of them after 2 or 3 weeks.
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Why do you want to slow population growth?
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He wants to play with a small nation for a change.
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It's totally not working - I turned off new issues, and my population still grew by four million overnight.
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Small nations suck because they make easy targets for invasion. Not that I would do such a thing.
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