Turn Chat #18: 1360 BC - 1260 BC (Turn 132 - 137)

Locutus · March 30, 2003, 10:07

This is the turn thread of turn chat #18.

Date of chat: Monday 2003/03/31
Start of chat: 18:30 GMT
Estimated duration: 2-3 hours
Place: #lemuria channel of Apolyton Chat Room.

Instructions for entering chat room:

Java (note: untested, can't guarantee these instructions are flawless):
a) Go to http://apolyton.net/misc/chat/room.shtml
b) If you don't get any Java errors (the Java chat doesn't seem to work equally well on all PCs), fill in username and click connect.
c) type '/join #lemuria' to join the Lemuria channel.

mIRC:
a) Download mIRC from http://www.mirc.com/get.html and install it (1,15 MB download)
b) Open mIRC options (should open automatically when you start mIRC; if not, File -> Options), and in the Connect screen, click 'Add' to add a server. Fill in description (Apolyton), server (apolyton.net) and port (6667). Then press 'OK'.
c) Fill in full name, email and nickname and press 'Connect to IRC Server' if Apolyton is selected as server (should be if you added it and didn't change it afterwards).
d) A new screen will open and connect you to Apolyton. Once there, type '/join #lemuria' to join the Lemuria channel.

Previous thread: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=81572

Presence/Orders:
I await orders from the Ministers and confirmations of the presence of all Citizens. All Ministers need to be present, have appointed a delegate (who *is* present), or leave behind detailed orders, or the chat cannot take place.

Domestic issues:

Q1 What shoudl we build in each of our cities in the next ~20 turns?

Q2 Under what circumstances should we use what kind of Specialists in which cities?

Q3 Should we invest in building Caravans yet? If so, under what circumstances and in what cities?

Infrastructure issues:

Q4 How much of our PW reserve should be spent on the road network and which roads should be built first?

Q5 How much of our PW reserve should be spent on Farms/Mines/Trade posts and where should we build them?

Diplomacy issues:

Q6 Should we actively pursue changes in relationships with any of the civs?

Q7 How should we respond to diplomatic requests and treaty violiations by the AI?

Science issues:

Q8 What should we research now?

Q9 What should we research next?

Military issues:

Q10 In what direction (roughly) should our explorers (Bait, Goodsight, Ösibuster) go?

Q11 What should we do with our Samurai?

Q12 Should we strife to attack Wien? If so, under what conditions?

Q13 What should we do with our offensive forces (6-stack, 7-stack, 12-stack) until/instead of/after attacking Wien?

Q14 Are movements of our defensive forces needed? If so, under what conditions?

Martin Gühmann · March 30, 2003, 15:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Locutus
Start of chat: 19:30 GMT

To make it clear I hope it is 19:30 GMT and not 19:30 BST (British Summer Time) or 19:30 CET (Central European Time) or 19:30 CEST (Central European Summer Time).

Well that is for the time. Unfortunatly I am not able to attend as I have in the next two weeks to attend in university for a java course. And there it is not a good idea to go to bed lately.

-Martin

Immortal Wombat · March 30, 2003, 15:59

Oh smeg

19:30 GMT == 20:30 BST == 21:30 CEST ??

Locutus · March 30, 2003, 16:17

Aargh... 20:30 local time, I live in the CET time zone. You do the math...

Immortal Wombat · March 30, 2003, 16:24

When do you go to CEST?

Martin Gühmann · March 30, 2003, 16:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat

When do you go to CEST?

Interesting question, Locutus. I am already in CEST. For the math you are the President, to provide us with clear information.

-Martin

HuangShang · March 30, 2003, 21:59

whats the Pacific time then

*im just too lazy to figure it out, but for some reson i think its 3hrs tues morn, or am i wrong

Zaphod Beeblebrox · March 31, 2003, 03:23

just noticed the time field under the names still uses cet instead of cest

EDIT: even more interesting: according to apolyton aachen is in a different timezone than berlin and enschede. well, its in between, lol

Frozzy · March 31, 2003, 05:09

I say all you Eurocoms are as confused as the next

Locutus · March 31, 2003, 05:37

Very well, the chat is 18:30 GMT, which is 19:30 BST, which is 20:30 CEST, 21:30 EEST, 13:30 EST, 12:30 CST, 11:30 MST, 10:30 PST, 6:30 NZST. (Why do I feel like I'm in a Monty Python sketch?)

Gilgamensch · March 31, 2003, 05:48

And what does it make for us, here in Lemuria?

Q8: As the majority decided for HR, please change accordingly.
Q9: Monarchy or GEO

Q6: No
Q7: keep all, Austrian war will continue.

Q3: I would like to see 4 Caravans produced, for the two most provitable trade routes, to be done within our empire.

Gilgamensch · March 31, 2003, 11:08

I won't be there, sorry about............

Locutus · March 31, 2003, 14:55

Zaphod and I are currently alone in the chat room (well, IW is there but has been AFK for the past ~45 mins).

If noone else shows up, there ain't gonna be a chat today...

Immortal Wombat · March 31, 2003, 16:06

Immortal Wombat · March 31, 2003, 16:23

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Pedrunn · March 31, 2003, 16:34

Just for the record the orders for the next three turns are in the ministery of Defense for this chat here

Locutus · March 31, 2003, 18:16

Savegame 1320 BC

Locutus · March 31, 2003, 18:25

Overview of map

Pedrunn · March 31, 2003, 18:37

BAIT - South (going straigh to Austria Territory)
GOODSIGHT - North (explore a unknown territory)
OSIBUSTER - North (explore a unknown territory)
SAMURAI - NE (To Linz)
TAKERS - South (To Wien)
BACKUP - NE, NE (meet HEBBEATERS)
HEBBEATERS - E, E, SW (check fog and meet BACKUP). Group all units in the tile.
WIENNERS - Stand Still (Blocking and blocked by Scott stack)
ADDFORCE - NW (to Wiens)
SIZE-3 STACK FROM PRESS - S and Fortify (Now part of H Defense)

Locutus · March 31, 2003, 20:14

German situation

Locutus · March 31, 2003, 20:58

The chat ended. I don't have time for a chat log (will follow tomorrow, as well as some screenshots) but here's a log of the most important events of the chat (I hope I didn't forget anything).

1360
rush-bought city wall in Colonia Locuta
built a road from Pedrunnia to mapfipolis
built a road from Wombatoon to the Graz-Pedrunnia road
built a road from Linz to Wombatoon
set PW to 20%
research set to Horse Riding
Takers and AddForce move towards Wien
moved some units from Wels and Pressburg towards H Town
moved some units from Wombatoon towards Pedrunnia

1340

built Archers in Pedrunnia, Pressburg, Wombatoon and Wels
built City Wall in Colonia Locuta
explorers continued exploration
Takers, AddForce, Wienners march on Wien
moved units from H Town and Wombatoon towards a point from where Pedrunnia, Graz and Wombatoon can all be reached in 1 turn once the road network is complete
rush-bought Theater in Graz

1320

Ballista Towers built in mapfipolis and Theater in Graz
army 'Tripoli' formed in the centre of the triangle Pedrunnia-Graz-Wombatoon
Takers and AddForce march on Wien (Wienners blocked by Scots)
explorers continued exploration, Oesibuster revealed Ruin

1300

Hoplites built in Pedrunnia and Linz
set PW at 80%,
rush-bought in all cities except Pedrunnia, Wombatoon, Linz and Wels
Warrior sent out from Linz to explore Pilsen area - threatened by Barb, so army of 4 sent out to escort Warrior
Goody hut near Oesibuster taken: it contained 2 Barb Horse Archers
Cornered German Settler between CL and MP with Hoplite+Archer combos
Takers, AddForce, Wienners march on Wien - very close now
Explorers continued exploring

1280

Oesibuster killed by a Barbarian Horse Archer
Pedrunn rioted (entertainer added)
German stack visible outside Wombattoon (not within striking range yet)
Caravan built in COlonia Locuta
Shrine built in H Town
Hoplites built in Graz, Maquiladad, Pressburg
Archer built in mapfipolis
PW at 0%
Suicided damaged Hoplite on Wien: city defended by 2 Knights only
Explorers continued exploring, Bait ran into the German city of Magdenburg
Takers and AddForce merge NE of Wien, Wienners also within striking range
Units South of Linz back to the city (a Jewish 12-stack approaches)
2 Units from mapfipolis start moving West (city finished building an Archer and now has 13 units in/around it)

1260

Hoplite built in Welsh
Germans established an embassy in Pedrunnia
Austrian Catapult bombarded Takers from Wien
Indians requested map exchange - accepted
Indians appear to have taken a Thai city (battlesounds in background, Thai/Indian borders looks 'funny').
Germans are now withing striking range of Wombattoon
researched Horse Riding, started Geography
Wien attacked and taken: 2 Knighs and 1 Catapult defending it. 1 Hoplite destroyed, 2 damaged.

End of Chat (no other moves were made in 1260, all stacks except Wienniers have all movement points left)

Locutus · March 31, 2003, 21:02

Some left-over sceenies that may or may not be of interest...

Suicide on Wien

Locutus · March 31, 2003, 21:03

Attack on Wien

(Screens and graphs of entire empire will follow later)

Locutus · March 31, 2003, 21:10

BTW, if possible I want to play in a non-chat way as well. For this reason I urge all ministers to collect their orders for this turn (optionally next turn as well) *ASAP*. I'd like to play 1 or 2 turns on my own between tomorrow and the next turn chat (in or around this weekend) - the sooner the better...

Locutus · April 1, 2003, 02:37

More screens (can't promise I'll post quite this many every chat, but I have time for it now) - I hope the resized ones work well on smaller screen resolutions...

Eastern provinces

Locutus · April 1, 2003, 02:39

Western provinces

Locutus · April 1, 2003, 02:40

(All that) Remains of the Austrian Empire

Locutus · April 1, 2003, 02:41

Quick overview of the empire

Locutus · April 1, 2003, 02:42

State of the Empire

Locutus · April 1, 2003, 02:42

Cities - Resources