The Belorussian Front HQ - (Darius) - Page 4

Colwyn · May 18, 2003, 23:44

Ok part of my offensive is off(city north of Vietbsk), I lost the labor unit which was going to build the city for the northern units in the fortress to rest/attack in. So i'm now defensive in that region. Though anzac could still go on the offensive and take a city or two, my units wouldn't have been that far up anyway.

I'll send another labor unit up, might survive and get a city started i'll protect it this time.

I plan to continue building the marsh city and will move the partisans/AA there, I expect Gomel to fall in summer as the germans can move up the river to attack and we'd need KV'1s and AA to hold it so Shaka i'd suggest you withdraw your units in there elsewhere ie Bryansk before winters end, but can I have the Su-122 for the marsh city so it can kill units waiting outside?

My Advice is that unless you have as a minimum a kv1 and AA, cities west of the don can fall easily in summer 42. Belograd should hold as a bastion!

Some siberans before winter end to top up teh cities in teh salient would be nice marshal as per a KV1 or two from moscow/gomel, hey even sturmovik's if we'll have them.

Winter ends May so does that mean we have 3 more winter turns?

Colwyn · May 19, 2003, 00:04

Bransk and Orel are weak as piss, do I move my units from

Kaluga/Tula up to extend my salient with strong border cities and weaker inside ones or do I hope that my southern comrade shaka can keep those cities?

We would need an additonal KV1 from moscow/gorkiy brought up as well to almost guarentee succuss in summer 42.

Holding Orel would protect Vorenzk from river fast move attacks shaka.

Comrades????

A or B

Shaka Naldur · May 19, 2003, 02:57

defending my cities won't be easy, I wasn't planing on holding any of them seriously,
if you think and AA battery will be enough then I will try to defend Kursk as it fullest

with an AA battery in bryansk and gomel and some partisans, cossacks red guards etc, we could hold the nazis for a long while, with the city at the marshes near the road to kiev the nazis will be sttopped for a long time

if you promise me that with an AA battery and kv1 a city can hold I can buy an AA battery and move one kv1 to Kursk, I don´t have units to defend orel

the su-122, keep it, it is ok with me, but I see you have already rehomed the unit

tell me the square were you are planing to build the city please

Colwyn · May 19, 2003, 03:09

Don't you think Belograd will hold? If not you might as well withdraw most units to orel as loosing them would be a wait, bryansk and b/w you and I we can easily hold these cities.

What do you want to do then?

Vorenz needs another 1-2 kv1's though you should have them by winters end.

Shaka Naldur · May 19, 2003, 03:17

we, I don´t know, but I prefer to try to hold Kursk because the fortified positions,
Belgorod will hold this winter but I will move north to kursk and I will move the expensive units to vorozneh,

I say let's try to defend Gomel and Bryansk, with an AA battery and a few partisans and cossacks we can hold them for a while at a very cheap costs,

Bossy20000 · May 19, 2003, 08:12

We have many cities to defend and little units. We must make sure not to spread our troops to wide. You should first decide a strategy for the region together, because if Kursk and Belgorod should fall, we loose Orel and they can break through our lines towards the Ural.

PinkyGen · May 19, 2003, 14:32

If Belograd holds, Kursk will for the first half of the year until the Nazi's can get past Gomel and Byransk and attack from a direction other than the south.

Bossy20000 · May 19, 2003, 15:14

True comrade, but if one of these cities should fall earlier then expected, we have some serious trouble, because then he can thrust right to Moscow and the Ural, while circling Smolensk and Vitebsk! I'm not saying to abandon the cities west of the Don (don't even think about that

) but we should prepare some alternatives now, some plans to put in a drawer in case we need them.

For the Rodina and the Party!

H Tower · May 19, 2003, 16:24

comrade Pavlov, I see that you are occupying that fortress between Minsk and Smolensk with many offensive units, what do you think of possibly moving forward a KV-1 to help defend those units from a German armored attack? At least during winter?

Colwyn · May 19, 2003, 18:28

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Originally posted by H Tower
comrade Pavlov, I see that you are occupying that fortress between Minsk and Smolensk with many offensive units, what do you think of possibly moving forward a KV-1 to help defend those units from a German armored attack? At least during winter?

A kv is on its way as we speak.

Colwyn · May 20, 2003, 00:43

My marshal I have moved a KV1 forward to the fortress as ordered and cleared every single Facist battaltion near our salient. The dogs died by the 10,000's over 35 battalions were killed around the salient and the marches, the nazi's died by the dozens as they thought they were safe in their little houses, many red army soldiers who refused to surrender formed partisians units and have devestated the enemy this month.

Fleeing civilians have been rounded up and formed new communities to act as assembly points for recruitment.

I have moved my forces to Bransk and orel to support the valient Shaka with his inspiring retake of Kharkov and increased the belorussian salient!

A new city will be created next month in the marshes to house these units I must implore that all my requests for units/build be authorised this month.

I hope my performance and shaka's will shame some commanders to drive forward and not **** their pants.

I have only lost 2 cites comrades can you claim the same.

Glory to slalin and the soviet union!

I Marshal Pavlov Zangalis challange all commanders to obey comrade stalins order "not a step back" and be the first to Berlin.

Shaka Naldur · May 20, 2003, 04:02

Colwyn,
what would happened if you moved the city a little to the south to coat the road is going to Kiev?
do you think it would be possible to hold it??

Shaka Naldur · May 20, 2003, 04:06

oh, let's build an AA battery in Gomel and see if it holds with a few units

Bossy20000 · May 20, 2003, 04:14

Well done comrade! If you can keep the marshes throughout the summer, I will nominate you for a medal, possibly even hero of the USSR.

PS If we can keep the Stalinline that is still there, some time in the future it will change into a Yak-9 (I think)

Henrik · May 20, 2003, 07:22

Michaelovitch, be sure to only nominate people for medals that actually exists

The medal you mention was created in 1943...

Bossy20000 · May 20, 2003, 08:16

If it was created in 1943, then they probably were talikng about it in advance. I was proposing to create such medal

Colwyn · May 20, 2003, 19:03

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Originally posted by Shaka Naldur
Colwyn,
what would happened if you moved the city a little to the south to coat the road is going to Kiev?
do you think it would be possible to hold it??

its too far away from reinforcements and has no KV's the germans can easily come up the river and attack in less than 1 mv so i'll keep a unit in there but the marsh city is its replacement, well take it again in winter 43

PinkyGen · May 20, 2003, 22:55

Well done Comrade General.

Comrade Bossy, I don't think Byransk and Gomel will hold for very long. I was saying that, until they fall, the threat to Kursk is minimal.

Shaka Naldur · May 21, 2003, 04:01

anyways, I say we build an aa battery in gomel and bryansk and move some red guards and cossacks and see what happens

Bossy20000 · May 21, 2003, 06:37

We will see what happens, but it better be "We kept the city!", because else...

Shaka Naldur · May 21, 2003, 17:12

comrade Pavlov,
why are you founding so many cities??
even worst, why haven't you named any in my honour

no, now seriously, I think it is a little useless, but well, it is your front, and if you think it is ok

if you move the kv1 in the city north of Bryansk to Bryansk we will never lose the city

oh yes, and name a city in my honour

The ANZAC · May 21, 2003, 17:58

Yeah, why are we founding so many cities when we could be using the resources to build improvements elsewhere and the refugees/engineers to help the UMIP??!

Colwyn · May 21, 2003, 19:14

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Originally posted by The ANZAC
Yeah, why are we founding so many cities when we could be using the resources to build improvements elsewhere and the refugees/engineers to help the UMIP??!

I'll explain, labor units work at 1/2 the rate of labor brigades, by building new cities with them you have the option within a season of :

Building/Rush buying new military units (esp when we have more money)

Building a labor brigade once it gets to size 2 which works at twice the speed or even disbanding it at size 1 to get the labor brigade (cool hey!)

Building the city on Forest/River etc for terrain defence bonus's.

So by building a city now and then building a labor brigade you actually would have a plains improvement to industry at the same time that the laborer would have finished at 1/2 speed! plus a city!

Shaka Naldur · May 21, 2003, 19:19

and what about renaming them

Colwyn · May 21, 2003, 19:25

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Originally posted by Shaka Naldur
comrade Pavlov,

if you move the kv1 in the city north of Bryansk to Bryansk we will never lose the city

oh yes, and name a city in my honour

Kv1 is moving down, I'm a little concerned about bryansk as other people are saying it won't hold (can they see the future?) Lets see if we can get 2AA's in their any maybe add the 2 cossacks of yours nearby.

Colwyn · May 21, 2003, 19:26

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Originally posted by Shaka Naldur
and what about renaming them

I'll ask my troops next turn to paint a town in your honor

conmcb25 · May 21, 2003, 19:58

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Originally posted by Colwyn
So by building a city now and then building a labor brigade you actually would have a plains improvement to industry at the same time that the laborer would have finished at 1/2 speed! plus a city!

This sounds like the work of a capitalist! Can this be true getting something for nothing? You sound like an American Democrat!

Im having Comrade Michealovitch check into this, this sounds very reactionary!

The ANZAC · May 21, 2003, 21:06

Also, you know refugees get upgraded to labor brigades eventually right?

Sure, I guess it sounds all good

Bossy20000 · May 22, 2003, 04:32

Another person to go on my list! By Lenin, my list is getting longer every day. Soon I will have to delegate some of my responsibilities, I will spend all my time updating my list! What is wrong with all our front commanders? Have they lost their minds? I think they have to much contact with those capitalist Germans! I will send them some Zampolits to keep them on the right track!

Shaka Naldur · May 22, 2003, 07:13

what is that flag comrade Bossy?? to the gulag with him

Colwyn, Bryanks will hold with and AA battery and a kv1
also for Gomel, with an AA battery, a kv1 and three or four partisans, I'm pretty sure

they don´t count with the city in the marshes,