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Old April 3, 2003, 18:31   #1
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"That's so gay" - enough to get twelve-year-olds suspended
12 Year Old Suspended For Anti-Gay Remark



Next they'll be banning people at Poly for using that "This thread is gay" Richard Simmons picture. No, wait, better not give them ideas...
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It's about time they started cracking down that.
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Hey that link is empty! I sense a setup to get me into a gay site.
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Old April 3, 2003, 18:35   #4
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Old April 3, 2003, 18:37   #5
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Hey that link is empty! I sense a setup to get me into a gay site.
Works fine for me!
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yea, in my highschool they started punishing people for that
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It's about time they started cracking down that.
Actually, I think so too.
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yea, in my highschool they started punishing people for that
Would schools accept insulting things you didn't like by referring to them as ethnic groups?

"That's so black"...

I don't know if suspension is indicated in either situation, but it should definitely be treated equally...
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So is saying to a stingy person "don't be such a Jew" not offensive, because the person saying it might not actually intend it to refer to Jewish people?
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nothing. Just a small link on the top left corner for a Barbara Streisand CD sale.
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They suspended him for that? Dude, that's so gay!
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So is saying to a stingy person "don't be such a Jew" not offensive, because the person saying it might not actually intend it to refer to Jewish people?
Remember Boris? The conservative backlash dictates that to find anything offensive, means that you're a PC fanatic.
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I don't agree with censorship, but I certainly wouldn't mind hearing that phrase less.

Of course, school environments are rife with censorship anyways.
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So is saying to a stingy person "don't be such a Jew" not offensive, because the person saying it might not actually intend it to refer to Jewish people?
I've actually noticed "jew" is replacing "gay" in some, ehm, 'communities' such as Counter-Strike.
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I remember seeing the term "Jewry" somewhere or another, probably one of those boring-ass 19th century British novels they made me pretend to read in high school.

I still use the term "gyp." I didn't know its derivation until just a coupla years ago, and by then the term was pretty well ingrained into my lexicon.
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I use it too. Along with gyprock...
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I remember seeing the term "Jewry" somewhere or another, probably one of those boring-ass 19th century British novels they made me pretend to read in high school
Is there anything wrong with that? I was under the impression that it held the same type of meaning as "Christendom"; the community of Christians.
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I bet half the english language is made up of racial slurs.
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This is PC Madness. I actually thought too that the Apolyton homosexual's would actually comdemn such stupidy , but clearly they agree with such a policy

This Phrase, while annoying has been around for ages and rarely actually is meant to offend someone's sexuality.
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Is there anything wrong with that? I was under the impression that it held the same type of meaning as "Christendom"; the community of Christians.
Could be, but in this particular case the term was used to refer to miserliness.
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This is PC Madness. I actually thought too that the Apolyton homosexual's would actually comdemn such stupidy , but clearly they agree with such a policy

This Phrase, while annoying has been around for ages and rarely actually is meant to offend someone's sexuality.
Back to Boris' statement about the Jewish slur -- in this same incident, only with the Jewish slur, you go and explain this to a self-respecting Jew.

And just because something has been around for ages, does not justify it.
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This is PC Madness. I actually thought too that the Apolyton homosexual's would actually comdemn such stupidy , but clearly they agree with such a policy

This Phrase, while annoying has been around for ages and rarely actually is meant to offend someone's sexuality.
See my above example of why it is still offensive.

I don't think the suspension was necessary, if it was the first offense for the kid. Maybe he had a record of misbehaving, though. Perhaps he had already been warned about using that kind of terminology, who knows? Or, they could be making an example out of him, after failing to stem the term's use through less-draconian means.

At any rate, yes, suspension for 2-days seems a little harsh. But I am all in favor of schools not tolerating this kind of thing any further and making it known that they won't do so.
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The phrase itself is annoying enough to warrant a suspension, let alone the possibility that it may cause offence.
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My prof is so gay. That's why I recommended him to some of my friends.
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to the school board. School is probably the greatest bastion of vitriolic anti-gay hatred America, they ought to take action.
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to the school board. School is probably the greatest bastion of vitriolic anti-gay hatred America, they ought to take action.
Outside the Republican Party, probably.
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That teacher was probably gay.
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Actually, I think so too.
Me too.

So many schools/families haven't put a stop to it, and the use has grown so fast because of it.

I think it's offensive, even though it's not intended to be with most uses of it these days.
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bloody hell, if you get suspended for that now, i would have been expelled

i use 'that's so gay' etc. a fair bit, don't mean to offend anyone, but it's a phrase my friends and i have used since primary school. i use the jewish stuff sometimes as well, again out of habit, not a desire to offend anyone. suspension seems a bit much in this case.
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bloody hell, if you get suspended for that now, i would have been expelled

i use 'that's so gay' etc. a fair bit, don't mean to offend anyone, but it's a phrase my friends and i have used since primary school. i use the jewish stuff sometimes as well, again out of habit, not a desire to offend anyone. suspension seems a bit much in this case.
Don't you see WHY they should start suspending for it?

You said it yourself -- the reason you use it because you've used it since primary school.

Now, if you got punished in primary school for saying it, you'd probably be a lot less likely to call random things "gay" when you don't like them.
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