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View Poll Results: Which difficulty do we choose to inflict upon ourselves?
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Chieftain (easiest)
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1.85% |
Warlord
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0% |
Regent
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1.85% |
Monarch
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5 |
9.26% |
Emperor
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33.33% |
Deity (hardest)
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27 |
50.00% |
Random
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1.85% |
Bananas can be hard or soft... (abstain/don't care)
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April 6, 2003, 09:14
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Deity
Local Time: 11:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: That's DR WhereItsAt...
Posts: 10,157
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What's our difficulty level?
Easy to understand poll - the higher the difficulty the more advantages the AI gets (or the less disadvantages they get/the less advantages we get). From lowest difficulty to highest the options are:
Chieftain
Warlord
Regent
Monarch
Emperor
Deity
Random
Banana (abstain/don't care)
The first SPDG, where we won by Diplomatic means (yet domination would have been possible had we had the will to play on!) was on Emperor.
You have the standard 5 days.
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April 6, 2003, 12:19
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Prince
Local Time: 18:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: May 2001
Location: of Bananas
Posts: 998
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Certainly nothing below emperor. This is a learning experience after all. Deity may have too much unhappiness to make for a fun game (er no pun.. err GAHJHJH I 'm not making a joke! *escapes*).
Could someone list major differences between emperor and deity?
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April 6, 2003, 13:12
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King
Local Time: 19:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,681
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Monarchy?  I agree, anything less than Emporer will not be a challenge.
My vote - Deity!
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April 6, 2003, 15:25
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Technical Director
Local Time: 01:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Chalmers, Sweden
Posts: 9,294
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Deity
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April 6, 2003, 17:15
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Deity
Local Time: 17:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: of naughty
Posts: 10,579
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Emperor. I'm sure we'd win on Deity but the unhappiness won't make it so fun.
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April 6, 2003, 17:28
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Prince
Local Time: 18:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 733
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Unhappiness? Deity has the same amount of unhappiness as emporer.
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April 6, 2003, 19:16
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Prince
Local Time: 06:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Is our first demo game Emperor level ? Can't remember.
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April 6, 2003, 19:51
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Emperor
Local Time: 10:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 4,103
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For me...Emperor is no longer a challenge.
Yet I am unable to beat deity
So I choose deity....Teach me how to win
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April 6, 2003, 19:52
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Emperor
Local Time: 18:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: May 2001
Location: flying too low to the ground
Posts: 4,625
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D.
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April 6, 2003, 20:22
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Emperor
Local Time: 01:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Posts: 8,117
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hi ,
deity or nothing
have a nice day
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April 6, 2003, 20:31
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Deity
Local Time: 17:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: of naughty
Posts: 10,579
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Originally posted by CiverDan
Unhappiness? Deity has the same amount of unhappiness as emporer.
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Civ2 still on my mind...
Actually I'm starting to think that Deity is the best choice, too bad I already voted
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April 6, 2003, 21:35
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King
Local Time: 18:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Of GOW's half of BOB
Posts: 1,847
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Diety, we need a challenge.
Aggie
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April 7, 2003, 01:01
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Emperor
Local Time: 18:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The DoD
Posts: 8,619
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The AI bonus on deity is so high, I have yet to hear even a builder say building is a viable choice on deity.  Let's have more options beyond bloodthirsty warmongering; emperor.
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April 7, 2003, 02:21
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Emperor
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Originally posted by Kloreep
The AI bonus on deity is so high, I have yet to hear even a builder say building is a viable choice on deity. Let's have more options beyond bloodthirsty warmongering; emperor.
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Good Point....
I would love to see a deity win, even if it means a warmongering option only.
But I appreciate that those crazy  builders among us may shy away from the level.
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April 7, 2003, 02:52
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Prince
Local Time: 15:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
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Location: Southern California
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Haha, come on the wussies at CFC haven't even gone up to diety yet in their demo game. How cool would 'Poly be if we won on Diety?
*The wussies thing was a joke actually, but regardless, we should play diety!
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April 7, 2003, 06:00
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Emperor
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Originally posted by Kloreep
The AI bonus on deity is so high, I have yet to hear even a builder say building is a viable choice on deity. Let's have more options beyond bloodthirsty warmongering; emperor.
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hi ,
with good planning we can beat the AI , okay , they start with more units , but then there is nothing for a long time , what is 12 cities with one unit in them , you can take them with two swords , ......
or are we going to say that we cant beat a simple AI program , ........
deity , we need a real challenge !
have a nice day
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April 7, 2003, 06:40
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Emperor
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Originally posted by panag
, what is 12 cities with one unit in them , you can take them with two swords , ......
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It is usually like 3-4 units/city and about 7-8 units in the capital @ deity.
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April 7, 2003, 06:54
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Emperor
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Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
It is usually like 3-4 units/city and about 7-8 units in the capital @ deity.
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hi ,
you get the picture , nothing that cant be beaten by human brains , simple , ......
are we going to back out from a simple AI
 we shall prove to the whole world we can beat it
have a nice day
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April 7, 2003, 08:15
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Emperor
Local Time: 00:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: EMPEROR of Cats
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With a strong accent on naval warfare..? Emperor would be fine, but if enough people are for Deity (and know how to beat the AI!), I'm all for Deity.
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April 7, 2003, 12:41
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Emperor
Local Time: 01:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: turicum, helvetistan
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deity!
with so many big brains and strategists around here, this level should be no challenge at all (except you start on a 10 tile tundra island  )
btw: CFC used this level too.
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April 7, 2003, 15:46
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Emperor
Local Time: 19:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Detroit
Posts: 4,551
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deity.
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Try peace first. If that does not work, then killing them is often a good solution. :evil:
As long as I could figure a way to hump myself, I would be OK with that
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April 7, 2003, 16:57
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Emperor
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I'm not saying we can't beat the AI at deity; if a single player not MMing every detail can, so can we.  I just feel that choosing deity resigns us to being bloodthirsty warmongers all game; while plenty of SPers seem to be able to roll over the AI with Tanks, rolling over other the other civs with libraries seems to not even be an option on deity, whereas we were able to build for a while on Emperor.
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April 7, 2003, 18:01
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King
Local Time: 17:13
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Dallas, Texas
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As others have expressed, I can win at Emperor, a Diety win seems un-attainable. The AI kicks my ass at research and builds a huge army.
So I vote for Diety!!! Teach me how to win.
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April 8, 2003, 06:56
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Emperor
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Originally posted by BigFurryMonster
With a strong accent on naval warfare..? Emperor would be fine, but if enough people are for Deity (and know how to beat the AI!), I'm all for Deity.
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hi ,
well welcome to the "collective"
we can thing about a situation for days , the AI cant
have a nice day
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April 8, 2003, 08:42
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Prince
Local Time: 09:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Newcastle, Australia
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I struggle so much on Deity. I want to see how people manage to beat it. Therefore, Deity gets my vote.
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April 8, 2003, 12:14
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Emperor
Local Time: 19:13
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Location: Detroit
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I have won 2 times on deity. Only 2 times out of a hundred or so tries. You need to have excelent FAM skills, and know when to attack or not. War is the best way, but not the only way. UN vote was one of the two wins - I played spain and had lots of culture and gold. THe other was domination, on a small map both times. This will be tricky. I say go for it... and don't be to surprised if we loose.
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As long as I could figure a way to hump myself, I would be OK with that
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April 9, 2003, 14:45
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Prince
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Originally posted by Master Zen
Emperor. I'm sure we'd win on Deity but the unhappiness won't make it so fun.
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unhappiness are the same!
EDIT: doh! someone already said that sozzy
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April 9, 2003, 16:47
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Chieftain
Local Time: 00:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
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Location: Netherlands
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uhm chieftain?? please?? i already lose that half of the time because im at one side *too* perfectionist and on the other side not enough...
nah voted emperor.. lets see what people think..
I'll be the one calling for stupid action that you may then correct
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April 9, 2003, 22:00
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Local Time: 18:13
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Emperor.
Deity pretty much ensures constant warfare, which significantly slows down the game, and pretty much prevents any type of builder strategy. That's why I'm against it.
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April 10, 2003, 17:42
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Emperor
Local Time: 01:13
Local Date: November 2, 2010
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Originally posted by Jonny
Emperor.
Deity pretty much ensures constant warfare, which significantly slows down the game, and pretty much prevents any type of builder strategy. That's why I'm against it.
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hi ,
 there does not have to be war all the time , .....
there shall be war , more then on other levels since everyone shall want to make his people happy true spices , ivory , etc , .....
have a nice day
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