The Court: Fifth Judge Run-off

Drogue · April 6, 2003, 10:21

This is a run-off for the fifth Judge place. Those are the only two options, since we need one of them to take the position. Your options are:

red_jon - The Federation of Redfern
Archaic - The Commonwealth of Alecrast.

Both received 8 votes last time.

You have 2 days.

Good luck

red_jon · April 6, 2003, 11:34

VOTE FOR ME OR ALL THE KITTENS DIE.

red_jon · April 6, 2003, 11:37

Oh, and the nations are -

ALECRAST

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/...ation=alecrast

REDFERN

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/...nation=redfern

Drogue · April 6, 2003, 11:54

Thank you, forgot that bit

Will put in the first post.

red_jon · April 6, 2003, 12:28

Now you're just making me look stoopid

So who did YOU vote for Drogue?

Drogue · April 6, 2003, 17:07

Me? I voted for you RJ. As I did in the last poll. Nothing against Archaic, but you were there at the start, and have been impartial, unbiased, and generally someone who I think will fit well on the bench. Besides, you're a Brit, couldn't have one of our colonies having more power than us could we

Make you look stupid? I thought you looked smart giving me the idea?

Sheep · April 7, 2003, 04:20

Australia ain't a colony anymore.

Archaic · April 7, 2003, 06:57

Vote for me or the Menchi gets it.

Drouge? You're just bitter because we slaughter you at every sport you invent.

Drogue · April 7, 2003, 14:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Sheep
Australia ain't a colony anymore.

Says who? It's still a Commonwealthian in my books. I won't try to claim ownership of the US (although if anyone's seen the "Blair's revocation of the Declaration of Independance", it's very, very funny

)

Quote:

Originally posted by Archaic
Drouge? You're just bitter because we slaughter you at every sport you invent.

Well, most. Football we still win, and wait until the Rugby Union World Cup, then see whether that still holds

I'd like to see you take us on at conkers

red_jon · April 7, 2003, 19:41

Aww, thank you Drogue

And 4 kittens have been killed.

Sheep · April 7, 2003, 20:48

I do remember we beating you 3 to 1 in the football friendly a couple of months back :P

GeneralTacticus · April 8, 2003, 02:44

I'd hardly consider to any country whose elected government can be dismissed on the orders of a respresentative of an outside power to be independant.

(belated) EDIT: fixed grammatical error.

red_jon · April 8, 2003, 13:48

The poll is closed!
I WIN! I WIN!

I'd just like to thank everyone who helped me get here, my crack dealer, and the dozens of kittens who couldn't be here today.

Drogue · April 8, 2003, 13:57

Quote:

Originally posted by Sheep
I do remember we beating you 3 to 1 in the football friendly a couple of months back :P

Yes, but I do remember that being the England 2nds. Besides, that was before we discovered the Genius that is ROONEY

17, and already on of the best strikers in the world. Just watch the guy place, it's awesome.

Quote:

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
I'd hardly consider to any country whose elected government can be dismissed on the orders of a respresentative of an outside power to be independant.

In that case we're all US colonies, as Bush can seem to change any Government he wants (or at least thinks he can).

Yes, congrats to red_jon, may he serve us well

(resisting the temptation to call him reddybaby

)

Method · April 8, 2003, 14:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Drogue
Besides, you're a Brit, couldn't have one of our colonies having more power than us could we

is that really it, or have people just carried on the tradition of not voting for archaic?

note: i do vote for archaic....just not here, where i don't vote at all

GeneralTacticus · April 9, 2003, 06:23

Quote:

In that case we're all US colonies, as Bush can seem to change any Government he wants (or at least thinks he can).

I'm serious. Our elected government can (and on one occasion has been) be dismissed from office by the Governor-General should he so choose, and there's nothing to prevent him from doing so except the PR disaster it would be if he did it without giving some kind of justification.

Drogue · April 9, 2003, 07:46

As was I being serious

But is that right? The Queen cannot disband our parliament, and I thought the same bill applied to colonial powers? If not, then that really should be repealed

GeneralTacticus · April 9, 2003, 07:48

Not disband parliament, sack the government. It ahppened in 1975: "Sir" John Kerr dismissed the Whitlam government and replaced it with Fraser.

EDIT: And, yes, I think that power should be removed, although personally I think we should get rid of the whole royal system and have an elected chief of state for once.

Drogue · April 9, 2003, 07:57

Hmmm. I would hate an elected chief of state. Of course it is your decision, but for the UK, if we elect a head of state, we need to give them some power (which I wouldn't want) and also they would be politicized, and thus would only care about the time before the next election, so they get re-elected.

GeneralTacticus · April 9, 2003, 07:59

I'd rather that we had a head of state who could be made accountable in some other way than threatening to abolish their position and replace it with someone else.

Archaic · April 9, 2003, 08:06

Why not enter all their personal posessions as government property, and upon the completion of their term, they recieve them back plus a monetary bonus...assuming they do well. If they don't....well....it's auction time.

Drogue · April 9, 2003, 08:08

Because that would mean, if you don't do your job, not only do you not get paid, but you lose all your belongings? That's a little harsh, isn't it?

GeneralTacticus · April 9, 2003, 08:09

All that would be likely to lead to would be more business for Carribean tax havens. They sell all their property some shell corporation in Bermuda and then loan it back to themselves, and get it back once they're out.

Archaic · April 9, 2003, 08:17

Hmmmmm......a good point. Still, to prevent corruption, you *would* really need something that harsh. Obviously the solution I mentioned can't work in the modern era (Does anyone recognise where I stole it from? ^^; ), but surely there'd be one that does.

GeneralTacticus · April 9, 2003, 08:20

No, I don't think so... unless you're referring to what was (IIRC) the custom of a native American Indian tribe, whereby leaders would give up all their possessions when they got the job.

Archaic · April 9, 2003, 08:27

Nope. I'm actually referring to something out of a medieval fantasy fiction novel. ^^;;; However yes, it's quite similar to that practiced by some of the native Americian Indians.