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Why do all of the leftists here hate Fox news? Sometimes it is necessary to get another opinion other than that which comes from the left. Of course that would take some critical thinking which goes contrary to leftist ideology which prefers an exclusive liberal view of the news.
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I'm politically right of centre and I have no faith in FOX to report such news accurately or impartially.
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April 7, 2003, 10:55
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The markets must believe it...
Dow + 166
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April 7, 2003, 10:56
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Originally posted by Ming
The markets must believe it...
Dow + 166
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Replace London in my sig with New York, Ming. 
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April 7, 2003, 10:57
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April 7, 2003, 11:01
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The markets must believe it...
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I wonder if someone at FOX had loads of shares and was releasing false informati.....no, can't be, they wouldn't do such a thing.
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April 7, 2003, 11:10
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Originally posted by Big Crunch
I wonder if someone at FOX had loads of shares and was releasing false informati.....no, can't be, they wouldn't do such a thing.
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Nah, it was already going to happen.
And tomorrow someone will put an RPG into a Bradley and kill a few people, and the markets will drop 100 points again.
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April 7, 2003, 11:13
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Originally posted by Lincoln
Why do all of the leftists here hate Fox news?
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Fox is explicity right wing. You can really not expect people that are the other way around not to be sceptical or distrustful about them.
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April 7, 2003, 11:15
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And the BBC's explicitly left-wing.
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April 7, 2003, 11:17
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You are extreme right wing, your perception is skewed.
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April 7, 2003, 11:20
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I am centre to centre-right and a populist.
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April 7, 2003, 11:22
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Ahhh FoXnews... the land of jingoism, white trash, and retarded neo-conservatives.
This may be true, but I have to ask myself: Would I believe Iranian or Kuwaiti reports? Would I believe FOXnews regurgitating Iranian and Kuwaiti reports?
So put me down for, "Waiting for a real news source to report this."
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April 7, 2003, 11:23
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Originally posted by Boddington's
I am centre to centre-right and a populist.
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 Your perception really is skewed.
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April 7, 2003, 11:24
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Originally posted by Boddington's
And the BBC's explicitly left-wing.
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Are you kidding? BBC left wing??
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April 7, 2003, 11:24
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Bods.: maybe it's about time you learned the difference between explicit and implicit.
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April 7, 2003, 11:27
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You're a populist who seems to care remarkably little for other people.
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April 7, 2003, 11:28
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Since I have seen nothing on this in any other news source, with AP and Reuters being the most credible, will hold judgement.
As for the Markets: people buying on false hopes. honestly, is there anyone here avoiding making significant purchases only cause your "anxious" about the war, and will go on some shopping spree after the war, but not the multimonth if not multiyear occupation, ends?
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April 7, 2003, 11:54
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Lancer,
Do you consider me left-wing? I certainly don't think I am... I'd say center or even center-right (certainly the latter from a Euro perspective). Yet I recognize that Fox is the worst of a bad lot. It's "news" - quotes required, IMO.
-Arrian
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April 7, 2003, 11:57
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I consider you a little left of center, Arrian.
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April 7, 2003, 11:59
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I just listened to the BBC world service news on the radio, they reported nothing about an uprising in Baghdad.
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April 7, 2003, 12:07
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Originally posted by Boddington's
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From your comments on this board you sound like a Daily Mail reader 
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April 7, 2003, 13:10
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Caversham, BBC Monitoring Unit :: Mike Baker :: 1555GMT
Iraqi satellite television has now been off the air for over 15 hours. It means that only the terrestrial service is still broadcasting, and only on a very weak signal.
Today they've put out pictures of Saddam Hussein meeting his ministers, and some of his son Qusay. But there's nothing to indicate when those pictures might have been shot.
However, all the pan-Arab satellite services are reporting on events in Baghdad. One of the more interesting is from an Iranian news agency reporting from the city - and it's normally a very reliable agency - saying there had been uprising in parts of the city. It also reports that some 35 people have been killed in those clashes. But we have no other confirmation of that information.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/...og/default.stm
Is this good enough?
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April 7, 2003, 13:17
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No. The BBC is too far right as well. We want a true radical leftist news organization to give us the news or we won't believe it!
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April 7, 2003, 13:21
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Well the Guardian is quoting the Kuwaiti news agency. Is that good enough?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...931451,00.html
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April 7, 2003, 13:24
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Well the Guardian is quoting the Kuwaiti news agency.
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That must have pained them.
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April 7, 2003, 13:29
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I noticed that article quoted NPR. That will never do. We all know that they are a front for the Christian radical right wing!
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April 7, 2003, 13:29
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There are still some holdouts, Dino. Yesterday, Robert Fisk described climbing up on the burned out Abrams tank and confirming that the Iraqis had beaten back the attack.
He said he tried to explain to the Iraqi fighters what the barrell of the tank said: "Cojones EH". 
What a fraud.
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April 7, 2003, 13:34
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If Fisk said it, it must be true. After all, it jives with the Iraqi Information Minister's claims of an overwhelming victory so far in the battle for Baghdad.
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April 7, 2003, 13:35
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April 7, 2003, 13:39
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Why do all of the leftists here hate Fox news? Sometimes it is necessary to get another opinion other than that which comes from the left. Of course that would take some critical thinking which goes contrary to leftist ideology which prefers an exclusive liberal view of the news.
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-That's when I watch CNN or other American sources.
The war has seriously made me reconsider my news sources. If I want a wacky right-wing view, good for a laugh, there's Fox. If I want a wacky left-wing view, good for a laugh, there's http://www.pravda.ru If I want to know what's really happening, I have to search around, but it seems that as far as TV coverage that reaches me, the French really do it best.
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April 7, 2003, 13:43
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Yes, you gotta do your own search now days. It is a good idea to get the spin from all angles and then see who is the biggest liar. This propaganda war is more interesting than the war in Iraq.
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