Brits -- Best Allies Ever?

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:13

They had every justifiable reason to say no on this one but they still had America's back.

First ones in on 9-11 too.

Couldn't ask for a better friend.

UK!

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:14

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Q Classic · April 9, 2003, 23:15

no offense, but it's not like the brits have any other power to attach themselves to...

Pekka · April 9, 2003, 23:16

Hmm.. Nope.. I'd say the Swedes are the best allies.. Go Sweden!!

Oh you meant to US?

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:16

Lincoln · April 9, 2003, 23:16

Yes, friends indeed. I even like Tony Blair now! He paid a huge political price for his stand but then so did Winston Churchill.

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:17

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Originally posted by Q Cubed
no offense, but it's not like the brits have any other power to attach themselves to...

Well, they could have gone with the Germany-France-Benelux coalition...

Q Classic · April 9, 2003, 23:18

as if the franco-germanic axis with the low countries has any truly formidable economic, military, or political might...

no, the twenty-first century world will revolve around an america struggling to find a mission, and a resurgent china flexing its muscles.

britain is clinging to a power that is at least more similar to them in traditions.

Pekka · April 9, 2003, 23:18

Somehow I ended up not liking mr Blair for some reason. He gives a good show when he speaks, smiling and being very professinoal but something doesn't match. He's a weirdo.

GePap · April 9, 2003, 23:20

Man, how can you diss Howard and the Aussies that way?

I mean Tony is so needy, calling for things like moving with the ME peace deal and giving george a hard time about how much UN involvement there will be..

But Howie, Howie keeps his mouth shut and does as he is told!

Go Australia!

Pekka · April 9, 2003, 23:21

But I admit he had big sacks to go with this, since it wasn't very popular in UK at the beginning.. it was possible suicide politically. But then again security matters are not popularity contests, or decided by gallups and polls.

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:21

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Originally posted by Q Cubed

as if the franco-germanic axis with the low countries has any truly formidable economic, military, or political might...

no, the twenty-first century world will revolve around an america struggling to find a mission, and a resurgent china flexing its muscles.

UK carries more political weight around the world than anyone else except for America. The UK brings a certain level of "legitimacy" to political matters.

If UK was with the European Union then it might actually offer a political counterweight.

Not only that, like I said, you're missing the point, they had every right to say no and Americans would have understood but they helped out anyway.

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:22

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Nubclear · April 9, 2003, 23:24

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Originally posted by Ted Striker

UK carries more political weight around the world than anyone else except for America.

GePap · April 9, 2003, 23:24

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Originally posted by Ted Striker

Not only that, like I said, you're missing the point, they had every right to say no and Americans would have understood but they helped out anyway.

Like we understood with all the other allies that said no?

And oyu are still selling the Aussies short..Howard faced an even more skeptical public..
and he keeps his trap shut.

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:26

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Originally posted by GePap
Man, how can you diss Howard and the Aussies that way?

I mean Tony is so needy, calling for things like moving with the ME peace deal and giving george a hard time about how much UN involvement there will be..

But Howie, Howie keeps his mouth shut and does as he is told!

Go Australia!

No disrespect to the Aussies. But UK always punches way above its weight.

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:27

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000

Yeah, even more than a country much larger than its size, like Russia.

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:29

We know the Queen has been ***** slapping the lowly bear around for the past 200 years.

Nubclear · April 9, 2003, 23:30

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Originally posted by Ted Striker

Yeah, even more than a country much larger than its size, like Russia.

All the peoples of the world tremble at the word of the Mighty United Kingdom!

(Except France, Germany, Russia, China, Japan, et al)

Pekka · April 9, 2003, 23:31

Russia has tremendous amounts of power, they just haven't been using it lately, and with that suave Putin in the lead... hmm.. I'm putting my money on world domination as their main objective, but they're just being sneaky right now. Just wait and see! I'd be the first one to be here and post 'I told you so' thread, but I reckon we're the first ones to get wiped out, total genocide, and I'm one of the first ones to get it since .. well I'm not going into details but let's just say my first mission is assigned super near to the border. God help us and me too.

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:35

Come on Pekka the Finns have always whooped Cossack ass, they'll make it 50 miles in before they get trapped under the snow and then skied over.

Nubclear · April 9, 2003, 23:36

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Originally posted by Ted Striker
Come on Pekka the Finns have always whooped Cossack ass,

They fought bravely, but.........lost

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:38

Is that why your boys put their tails between their legs and went back home?

Pekka · April 9, 2003, 23:38

Sure.. but if they start really coming.. they'll come all the way

. We can't stop them.. but we can have a big blood orgy before we are wiped out. I don't really see a way to defend from nukes

. But I'll drag some of them to hell with me!

but if they have to fight another front/enemy at the same time.. now that's a different story. We're not going to get victory, we will die trying, but we will settle for all of us dying, them and us. Fair deal

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Tass, Karelia BACK!!

Ted Striker · April 9, 2003, 23:39

Well, if precendent tells any story, we've seen the excellent progress against the well-trained and equipped powerhouse known as the Chechnyan Army.

Nubclear · April 9, 2003, 23:39

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Originally posted by Ted Striker
Is that why your boys put their tails between their legs and went back home?

It's widely acknowledged that Russia won the war

Or should I say the Soviet Union.

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Sure.. but if they start really coming.. they'll come all the way . We can't stop them.. but we can have a big blood orgy before we are wiped out. I don't really see a way to defend from nukes . But I'll drag some of them to hell with me!

We Russians are intelligent however.

We know (at least us communists) that since were going down there ANYWAY......We might as well take you with us

Pekka · April 9, 2003, 23:41

Tass, Well we can then burn in hell together

Worthingtons · April 9, 2003, 23:42

I must say I am proud that our Country can be good Allies to the Great Nation of America. We have little in common (apart from geography) with Europeans and are much closer in nature to our good American friends.

As for Russia, I dont think anyone can dispute they hold immense amounts of power still, Blair may be a good diplomat but i dont we hold the right kind of Economic or Military power to be more significant than Russia or China. 4th biggest Political power I'd say.

Pekka · April 9, 2003, 23:43

But let's not talk about this matter in this thread.. we know this will not be settled with everyone happy

Asher · April 9, 2003, 23:44

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
We Russians are intelligent however.

Russia possibly has the worst government out of all western nations -- is that the tell-tale sign of intelligence?