Vox Daily War Report - Page 7

DeepO · April 25, 2003, 14:29

never mind, never mind... let's not get into real world politics here. I thought it was too funny to ignore, but I'm certain Alva, nor myself wanted to upset anyone with our posts.

DeepO

alva · April 25, 2003, 15:57

Nah, the (j/k) was put there on purpose

I initialy wanted to make another joke, but it just fell into place and I couldn't resist it. (sorry, second nature, has got into trouble before

)

If I did offend anyone, I apologize

BigFree · April 25, 2003, 19:31

I hope everyone here realizes that in MP play and PBEM's that war weariness doesn't happen. Republic doesn't sufffer the same as in a SP game; same goes for a Democracy.

ThePlagueRat · April 26, 2003, 09:52

Hmm, I heard that somwhere. It's a shame, acutally...
Have they weakened the respective govts to compensate?
If not, there must be patch to restore it somewhere?
Or we must make a Mod to do balance govts.

alva · April 26, 2003, 13:37

I don't think Firaxis considers it to be a bug, tthis was done intentionally IMO.
Granted, there are a few exploits you could use against Republic or Democracy if WW would excist..still..

nbarclay · April 26, 2003, 20:09

When AIs are losing, they generally make peace reasonably quickly. Human players who are losing are much more likely to take an attitude of, "If I'm going down, I'm taking you down with me," so it's not hard at all to imagine a human player continuing to fight a hopeless war just to hurt the enemy with war weariness. That makes the way war weariness works in SP far from desirable in MP.

What Firaxis probably really should have done was made a rule, "If you offer peace and click that you accept the other side's offer before sending, war weariness disappears." That would solve the revenge problem while still making war weariness an obstacle to protracted offensive warfare. But considering that I only just now thought of that solution, it's hard to blame the Firaxians if it didn't occur to them.

Master Zen · April 27, 2003, 05:26

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Originally posted by nbarclay

What Firaxis probably really should have done was made a rule, "If you offer peace and click that you accept the other side's offer before sending, war weariness disappears." That would solve the revenge problem while still making war weariness an obstacle to protracted offensive warfare. But considering that I only just now thought of that solution, it's hard to blame the Firaxians if it didn't occur to them.

You want to spoil my MP warmongering fun?!?!?!

nbarclay · April 27, 2003, 07:28

On further thought, the time when Republic shines most in SP is when you maintain a very small standing military and use the extra gold Republic brings almost entirely for research. To the extent that MP tends to call for larger standing armies, that eats into that advantage and, at the same time, makes the military police bonus for Monarchy more valuable. So the absence of war weariness in MP doesn't unbalance things as much as it might look like it would at first glance, although it does leave Republic with a considerable advantage unless a civ has a lot of very small and/or highly corrupt towns.

ThePlagueRat · April 27, 2003, 11:24

I really like the nbarclay idea of "peace offer to reduce weariness", but it's hard to implement it, I guess. It would have forced warmongering players to think a bit more about their politics. Eventually, hardliners would have to choose Monarchy or Communism if the idea was implemented. So Master Zen's MP warmongering fun could prevail too.

On the other side, to balance the govts is a fairly easy task. We just have to make a little MOD. For a game without weariness, it would be neccesary to strengthen Communism and Monarchy compared to Democracy and Republic, respectively. Remember that Communism is a late tech, and should be useful for something more than eliminating emotional faces.

Theseus · April 27, 2003, 12:24

Not that the WW discussion isn't interesting...

But how about a Vox Daily War Report?

ThePlagueRat · April 27, 2003, 13:57

Yeah, who's been killed lately?

And if I was to enter the battle with my secret El Krakén,
would I kill them all?

BigFurryMonster · April 27, 2003, 16:46

Just reading the reports now... I guess Trip and I will have to send in our countryman Hans B'Lux.

Beta · April 27, 2003, 22:52

Vox Daily War Report for 610BC - From the Voxian Ministry of Information

It was an "interesting" turn. (yes, dear, I love that dress.

)

To start with - a number of inferior Voxian units which were positioned as decoys were eliminated as expected by Gathering Storm forces. This allowed General Jon to push south - discovering the city of Tempest. And oh yes - Dissident the Deadly eliminated a veteran pikeman in the process.

It is also now apparent that GS has a navy - although, as it is obvious that the infidels must use women to fight ther land battles, their galleys are manned by children and old men pressed into service by the debased leadership which runs the country.

All in all, Voxian military leaders are not dissatisfied with the progress of the war. Despite some minor losses - major in-roads are being made into Storm territory.

May The One bless the Voxian troops in the field and showthem the path to Victory.

nbarclay · April 28, 2003, 00:13

It looks like Vox is doing reasonably well with the war of words, anyhow.

Shiber · April 28, 2003, 06:11

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Originally posted by BetaHound
It is also now apparent that GS has a navy - although, as it is obvious that the infidels must use women to fight ther land battles, their galleys are manned by children and old men pressed into service by the debased leadership which runs the country.

Damn, how did you know that?

asleepathewheel · April 28, 2003, 06:12

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Originally posted by Shiber

Damn, how did you know that?

Even though our galleys are manned by children and retirees, they still can move faster than the Vox ships. What does that tell ya?

FrustratedPoet · April 28, 2003, 06:16

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Originally posted by asleepathewheel
Even though our galleys are manned by children and retirees, they still can move faster than the Vox ships. What does that tell ya?

That we have whips, massive massive whips.

nbarclay · April 28, 2003, 06:27

Quote:

Originally posted by BetaHound

It is also now apparent that GS has a navy - although, as it is obvious that the infidels must use women to fight ther land battles, their galleys are manned by children and old men pressed into service by the debased leadership which runs the country.

And just think what's going to happen when our young, fit men finally get in on the action.

Arrian · April 28, 2003, 09:29

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All in all, Voxian military leaders are not dissatisfied with the progress of the war. Despite some minor losses - major in-roads are being made into Storm territory.

Come in, come in! Said the spider to the fly.

-Arrian

Velociryx · April 28, 2003, 09:56

Good to see the avatar back, Beta! In coming turns, you might want to keep some of his more colorful phrases in your mind, adapted to fit the game, of course!

Such notable greats as:

The Voxian Armies have the Infidels of GS completely surrounded. They are comitting suicide in large numbers at the ends of our swords.

GS has no army. There is no sign of any armed presence anywhere inside GS borders. Our troops are in no danger whatsoever. God willing, we will be marching through the center of the capitol soon.

And you have to say something about hitting us with shoes....

-=Vel=-

Beta · April 29, 2003, 22:31

Vox Daily War Report - From the Voxian Minsitry of Information.

590BC

The Voxian Armies have the Infidels of GS completely surrounded. They are comitting suicide in large numbers at the ends of our swords.

GS has no army. There is no sign of any armed presence anywhere inside GS borders. Our troops are in no danger whatsoever. God willing, we will be marching through the center of the capitol soon.

And we expect there may be a naval battle soon - the world's first - and we are confident that Voxian sailing and warfare skills, to say nothing of the strength of our ships, will prove triumphant. Death to the Infidels. May they prove to be acceptable shark bait.

asleepathewheel · April 29, 2003, 22:34

Good stuff. Keep up the good work

Very enjoyable

Panzer32 · April 29, 2003, 22:38

I'm still waiting for Vox to actually attack a city!

asleepathewheel · April 29, 2003, 22:41

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Originally posted by Panzer32
I'm still waiting for Vox to actually attack a city!

Yeah, was this the turn? The Vox army was in position. Please let us know I can't wait for lego to pass on the save.

Panzer32 · April 29, 2003, 23:50

Quote:

They are comitting suicide in large numbers at the ends of our swords.

what?

they are comitting suicide by being killed by others??

Theseus · April 30, 2003, 00:51

DATELINE: 5:45AM GREENWICH MEANTIME

By: Rajim al-Abouzeid, Staff Reporter - Al Jazeera

The silence is deafening.

All I can see around me are banana peels... banana peels... and more banana peels.

In a surprise tactic, Gathering Storm Special Forces, specifically the 11th Mountain Brigade (AKA "Aeson's Own") strew banana peels, the new and improved B61 Mark 2 Spotted version, on every mountain passage approaching their cities.

Evidently, the Voxian Republican Guard and fedayeen (the white Toyota pick-up guys) never expected it... many slipped to their deaths.

"I zlipped and fell... I yelled "I've fallen, and I can't get up" but no one listened," said one surrendered Vox combatant.

Major General Arrian of the Department of Storming confirmed that the banana peels were in fact positioned using the G.S. G.P.S. system, and that banana 'slippage' was enhanced with laser triggers from low-flying Catapult UAVs.

"We've never been this good before... we know where they are, we know what assets we have locally, including banana peel booby traps, and we can get to Vox at will." General Arrian also confirmed that Vox' slave workers have been responding very positively to a PsyOps campaign focused on the embarassament of the Immortals' standard uniform, known jokingly as "culottes."

For this reporter, Rajim al-Abouzeid, all I can feel is the tension in the air... something must happen soon... everyone hear feels it, even the old lady who cuts my hair and told me all of her Vox customers have been cheating her of tips...

What new tricks await the Voxians? How many of their troops will stand for the fray? How many valiant GS soldiers are ready to risk life and limb to defeat this scourge, and defend the homeland?

How many banana peels yet remain?

The silence, the silence... The horror, the horror...

Beta · April 30, 2003, 07:35

I love the smell of bananas in the morning. It smells like ... victory.

vulture · April 30, 2003, 07:47

Vox daily war report - from not quite the Voxian Ministry of Information

Our troops continue advancing, and are now within 1 tile of their capital. Messages smuggled out by carrier chicken indicate that the immortals are expanding the sewer for the capital, and expect to graduate to road building once this job is completed. We are meeting only light resistance, as the soil here is quite loose, and we have been given shovels to dig with. One heroic soilder reports slaying 17 Gathering Storm earthworms in one morning alone.

Further updates as events warrant.

And boy will I look stupid if we open the save to find that Vox have captured one of our cities

ThePlagueRat · April 30, 2003, 11:22

Exactly how many troops does GS have? Hmm...
Look forward to opening the save... just to see there are no units left to move around.

Shiber · April 30, 2003, 11:31

Fortunately, GS cities can move around and attack.
Don't ask...