Sticking It Out - Page 2

MPatton · April 18, 2003, 17:03

The last one I quit. Everyone wanted a piece of me, I was going nowhere fast, also they stuck me next to the worlds most powerful nations, I could not get some iron within a reasonable time and generally having a bad time, cause they put it freaking far away. This also when I realized that raging hordes on upper levels is a bad idea cause every open space I went was barbarians. Basically it was a stalemate and stalemates stink

Theseus · April 19, 2003, 19:01

I haven't quit (when losing, that is) for quite some time... for a while there, I had a knack for getting into MASSIVE trouble, completely unrecoverable.

I still get into sticky situations with KAIs sometimes, but have learned much more about manipulating the AI civs, and can usually come back against about anything.

Believe me, I'll be the first to tell the story if the AI civs give me an *ss-whupping!

Yahweh Sabaoth · April 24, 2003, 11:06

I am beginning to "stick it out" a lot more often. In my last two games, I've been sneak-attacked 3 times, and each time I was able to turn an attack, once by a more powerful force than I, into total success.

I even lost Sun Tzu's to the Spanish (my most hated AI after Carthage). Losing a wonder? Not too long ago that would have prompted my ctrl+shift+Q. But persevering and counter-attacking, I regained SunTzu's, and as a sort of bonus gift, Spain itself.

badams52 · April 24, 2003, 23:19

Reminds me of an old Civ 2 attitude I had:

What??!! You DARE declare war on ME! Well, for stopping my pure building style and forcing me into war mode, I'll just relieve you of your obligations to manage your cities.

Carried this attitude into Civ 3, though it's not as easy to enforce all the time.

Yahweh Sabaoth · April 25, 2003, 10:40

That's true. But it's still doable.

Let them hate so long as they fear.

Cort Haus · April 25, 2003, 11:55

I somethimes quit when I'm winning too easily but it'll take hours of play to get to the end and i want to start another one/

Ubergeek · April 25, 2003, 16:22

My current game (France, Huge world, 60% water, continents, max # of civs) my initial exploration of the world found me wedged in a sliver of land between every Militaristic civ in the game. Normally, this would have prompted a restart, but I decided to try to stick this one out.

What it meant is that I have had to be a lot more aggressive than I normally like to be. I quickly decided that in order to get any peace with yahoos like that as neighbors, I was going to have to take over the entire continent, one civ at a time. It's a VERY different game for me, but I'm enjoying it a lot. I've found that in spite of the fact that my military focus has prevented me from developing my land nearly to the degree I'm accustomed to and I've barely built any wonders at all, I'm leagues ahead of where I would normally be in techs at this time in the game and I've already got more GLs after taking over a third of the continent than I ever have gotten in a game before. I feel like the bad start forced me to change my playing style, and as a result I am playing the best I've ever played.

badams52 · April 25, 2003, 23:59

Luke...come over to the darkside.

Actually, you'll find that warring and winning is the easiest way to win.

Theseus · April 26, 2003, 16:20

Ubergeek, you will soon find yourself using this

more and more often!!

It's when this

becomes somebody's favorite that I start to get worried.

Ubergeek · April 26, 2003, 17:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Theseus

Ubergeek, you will soon find yourself using this

more and more often!!

It's when this

becomes somebody's favorite that I start to get worried.

Well, I'm not sure. My empire is so huge that turns are taking FOREVER. I will probably go back to my normal, peaceful style, except that I now know better how and when to wage, um, "preventive wars."

sgrig · April 27, 2003, 05:51

I usually quit in 3 cases:
1) If early on something goes badly wrong and by the end of Ancient Age I'm overrun by a technologically and numerically superior enemy - then I usually don't wait to be completely destroyed, and quit. However a few times I fought to the bitter end - not that it was much fun seeing Spearmen trampled into ground by Knights!
2) When playing on a huge map, and if I'm rather passive early on, so that by Modern Age there are a number of civs which are very similar in strength and technology to me, then turns take far too long, and so I quit and call this "stalemate"
3) If I'm by far the most dominant civ in the world, but bored with lots of micromanagement and long turn times, then I quit.

So I would agree that I quit when game stops being fun.