April 19, 2003, 03:21
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Originally posted by Frogger
Duh. The alternative is One World Government. Which I wouldn't mind, of course...
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Well, as long as they speak French. . .
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April 19, 2003, 03:21
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Armies are terribly passé, what.
We'll culture-flip you if it's the last thing we do. We've already secured Hollywood and large parts of New York.
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April 19, 2003, 03:21
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You guys might want to build an army before you start discussing how you're going to divvy up the US.
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Who needs an army when we have clever wordplay and state-name puns?!
(Is it time to call in the JTF-2s, yet?)
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April 19, 2003, 03:22
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I call being run by Western Canada or the UK! Bethesda cedes all territory to the UK and commonwealth.
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April 19, 2003, 03:24
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We'll culture-flip you if it's the last thing we do. We've already secured Hollywood and large parts of New York.
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I don't know what's funnier: the belief that Canada has any influence on the US or the belief that the US has any culture that could be "flipped".
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April 19, 2003, 03:24
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Originally posted by Frogger
Armies are terribly passé, what.
We'll culture-flip you if it's the last thing we do. We've already secured Hollywood and large parts of New York.
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Nary a truer word was spoken . . .
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April 19, 2003, 03:38
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Well, they admit defeat. I guess our work here is done.
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April 19, 2003, 03:43
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Originally posted by cinch
I vote for John A. Macdonaldland.
It just rolls right off the tongue!
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DON'T YOU DARE!
The names are about the only things we Native Americans can call our own, anymore!
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April 19, 2003, 03:44
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Indeed it is, to the extent you wish to have Hollywood and large parts of New York (and Martin Sheen, et al.) More power to ya!!! May you have better luck with them than we have!
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April 19, 2003, 03:50
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I don't know what's funnier: the belief that Canada has any influence on the US or the belief that the US has any culture that could be "flipped".
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April 19, 2003, 03:52
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DT- Well put.
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April 19, 2003, 04:15
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No hard feelings. Really. OK?
We don't have to put the moose on alert or something, do we?
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April 19, 2003, 04:29
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No hard feelings at all. Although you may want to put the moose on alert, I hear that Susan Saradon is particularily fond of them...
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April 19, 2003, 04:38
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Oh ****.
Call up the beaver.
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April 19, 2003, 13:04
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I don't know if this had been suggested before, I don't feel like reading through this whole thing, but instead of stripping France's position, instead make it an EU seat.
While France alone may not deserve it, they of course wouldn't accept being stripped of their position outright, but expanding their spot to an EU seat would be good. Certainly the EU is more than deserving, and it would still give a good deal of control to France as they exert much influence with the EU.
Problem solved?
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April 19, 2003, 13:18
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An EU seat would be a good idea in the future, but is completely unrealistic right now. As of today, foreign policy is almost stricly under the responsibility of nation States within the EU, and the 'Common Foreign and Security Policy' has no authority on its own. This will evolve in time, but the foreign and military integration of the EU is pure fiction yet.
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April 19, 2003, 13:21
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I don't want the EU speaking for the UK.
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April 19, 2003, 13:22
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Originally posted by Boddington's
I don't want the EU speaking for the UK.
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Isn't the UK still only half-way in the EU? They haven't accepted the Euro, right?
So an EU seat for all the EU except the UK.
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April 19, 2003, 13:24
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OK, sure. And the UK keeps its.
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April 19, 2003, 13:28
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An EU seat would be a good idea in the future, but is completely unrealistic right now. As of today, foreign policy is almost stricly under the responsibility of nation States within the EU, and the 'Common Foreign and Security Policy' has no authority on its own. This will evolve in time, but the foreign and military integration of the EU is pure fiction yet.
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Very true. This is why you should start out by giving the seat to a member state voted in by the EU, not the EU itself. If the EU ever does develop into a full-fledged political union, then you could transfer the seat over to the EU itself.
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April 19, 2003, 13:33
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Hopefully, France has been allowed a voice for the last time.
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April 19, 2003, 14:02
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The veto seems to be a big issue since it is absolute. Why not grant certain members a limited veto such as the one the US president has . . . a veto that can be over-ridden by a special majority in favor of a resolution. You could make it so that a veto by one of the big 5 could only be overturned by a positive vote of say 80 % of the security council and a veto by two big 5 members is absolute.
This idea remains problematic but I see it as a better structure than absolute vetos.
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April 19, 2003, 14:05
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My solution is the only one that makes sense.
Thank you.
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April 19, 2003, 14:40
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NYE: I would seriously like Minnesota to become part of Canada. The US is too full of conservatives for us Minnesotans. Kick out Gov. Pawlenty while your at it.
Vetoes should be removed, the size of the SC should be inceased to 25, and here are what the permenent members should be:
US
Germany
UK
Australia
China
Russia
South Africa
Egypt
India
Brazil
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April 19, 2003, 15:34
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No, vetoes need to go. They are POINTLESS.
The "secuirty council" (though there would be no point in having it) should be US, Brazil, Germany, Russia, , India, Egypt, South Africa, China, and Australia.
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April 19, 2003, 15:38
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France stays.
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April 19, 2003, 15:39
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If someone should go it's US/UK, there're the ones that violated UN procedures.
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April 19, 2003, 15:41
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I mean the contribution of France to Europe is somehing the UK can only dream about.... so they deserve it wholeheartedly.
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April 19, 2003, 15:45
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Plus the way that France (Russia and CHina and Germany) gave the finger to the US in the UN... man.. priceless
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April 19, 2003, 15:46
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Plus the way that France (Russia and CHina and Germany) gave the finger to the US in the UN... man.. priceless
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You also have to consider that France and Russia recieved the forbidden "Unaniomous Clap" in the UN.
Britain and America........didn't
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