April 19, 2003, 15:47
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Greece resents us because of our freedom.
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April 19, 2003, 15:48
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Who gives a rat's ass about US and UK (besides them that is) so that's no surprise
I thought France would back down and that Russia would abandon it.... but it didn't happen
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April 19, 2003, 15:59
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I think there ought to be a veto quota; each country gets so many a year, and when it's used them up, it can't have any more.
Should be a laugh, if nothing else.
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April 19, 2003, 16:00
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I think it should be like the Eurovision.
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April 19, 2003, 16:01
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Yeah, but then Greece would just veto anything to do with Cyprus and we'd get nowhere.
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April 19, 2003, 16:04
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You get veto in the Eurovision?
We'll always get the douze points though from Cyprus.
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April 19, 2003, 16:28
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April 19, 2003, 16:29
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For how long will we be able to exclude India? That's an awful lot of people in a growing economy.
Besides, appoint Canada to the Security Council and demote the French. Canada can represent the interests of France anyways.
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April 19, 2003, 16:38
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As a peace-loving member of the community of democratic nations, Macedonia did not want this war
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Way to go FYROM... you might have a future after all...
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April 19, 2003, 16:51
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FYROM is that that new boy band?
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April 19, 2003, 16:54
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Eurocom boy band FYROM resents us because of our freedom.
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April 19, 2003, 16:54
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FYROM is that that new boy band?
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No. They are the once and future masters of the FOPG.
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April 19, 2003, 16:57
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You're just pissed cause Osama gave you what you had coming.
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April 19, 2003, 17:00
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Just like Alexander gave you what you had coming.
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April 19, 2003, 17:07
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Persia never stood a chance
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April 19, 2003, 17:07
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As a peace-loving member of the community of democratic nations, Macedonia did not want this war
Way to go FYROM... you might have a future after all...
Not really, since as I corrected, Macedonia does support.
Gave you a link and what good does it do?
None.
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April 19, 2003, 17:10
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Neither did Greece. Just because you jumped on the bandwagon after the Macedonians kicked your ass doesn't mean that the victory was yours. FYROM > FOPG
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April 19, 2003, 17:11
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Firstly, since the US has recognized this "country" as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, you calling it Macedonia is unpatriotic
On a separate note, I'm glad to see... France in that link (and Mongolia )
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April 19, 2003, 17:12
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Macedonia was and is Greek.
Can't say Osama was American...
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April 19, 2003, 17:14
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France? That's to be a Spanish suburb.
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April 19, 2003, 17:15
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Macedonia was and is Greek.
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The Greeks of the time didn't think so; you're just spewing revisionist history in order to claim Alexander's successes for your crap country. No dice.
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April 19, 2003, 17:16
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Only Demosthenes called them Barbarians so as to gain as much support for Athens as possible.
Still don't change the fact that you should make a statue of Osama and worship him for the good he has done for you... ungrateful bunch
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April 19, 2003, 17:19
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Or France
I mean really you are savages compared to France. It has every right to tell you to bugger off. Think about it...
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April 19, 2003, 17:19
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paiktis. you been breathing that laughing gas too much.
Wasn't it Socrates that was the redneck?
Threw people through the air and that?
Yeah. I think so.
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April 19, 2003, 17:20
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Socrates invended the dwarf tossing an ageless honouring tradition.
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April 19, 2003, 17:23
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I knew there was something I revered him for.
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April 19, 2003, 17:36
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April 19, 2003, 18:32
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Anyway, to get this back on topic... Instead of making wish lists and wild guesses about who deserves to be in the Security Council, let's just look at some figures and decide based on that. Let's take population and GDP for starters:
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GDP in 10tothe9th dollars: * population in millions: * GDP*POP=
1. US: 10171 281 2858051
2. Japan: 4245 127 539115
3. Germany: 1873 83 155459
4. UK: 1406 60 84360
5. France: 1302 60 78120
6. China: 1160 1284 1489440
7. Italy: 1090 58 63220
8. Canada: 677 31 20987
9. Mexico: 617 103 63551
10. Spain: 577 40 23080
11. Brazil: 502 176 88352
12. India: 477 1046 498942
13. S-Korea: 422 48 20256
14. Netherlands: 375 16 6000
15. Australia: 368 20 7360
16. Russia: 310 145 44950
17. Argentina: 269 38 10222
18. Switzerland: 247 7 1729
19. Belgium: 227 10 2270
20. Sweden: 210 9 1890
Three other populated countries/regions:
xx. Indonesia 173 232 40136
xx. Pakistan 59 148 8732
xx. EU25 8200? 452? 3706400 |
Yes, I had too much time to waste.
Based on that, I'd say my Security Council should consist of:
USA
China
Japan
India
Germany
UK
and, of course:
France
And if the EU should get one seat, again based on GDP and population:
USA (3 votes)
EU (3 votes - we'll be modest for now and accept parity with the USA )
China (2 votes)
Japan and India (1 vote)
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April 19, 2003, 18:46
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The EU .. urgh almost as big a waste as the UN itself
I don't why France bothers trying to do anything on the world stage, nobody ever takes any notice, they'll only listen when France agrees with them.
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April 19, 2003, 18:53
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Macedonia was and is Greek.
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Or is Greece was and is Macedonia .
I guess during WW2, some French said France was and is Germany .
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