April 21, 2003, 07:59
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SMAC/SMAX Team Faction preferences
This is not a poll.
Please mention which SMAC/SMAX faction teams you would be willing to join. Then we can total team composition and maybe ask some players to join their 2nd/3rd preference to balance things. So, I guess list up to three teams from SMAC and SMAX and SMAC teams in SMAX if you wish, including an any team preference if you're not too concerned. But Do not choose an Alien faction.
So for me I' d join
SMAX
1 Data Angels
2 Pirates
3 Cult
SMAC
1 Gaians
2 Spartans
3 Any
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April 21, 2003, 08:30
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SMAX
1 Uni
2 Morgan
3 Angels
SMAC
1 Uni
2 Morgan
3 Lal
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April 21, 2003, 08:52
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SMAX
1/2 Uni/Morgan
3 Conciousness
SMAC
1/2 Uni/Morgan
3 Lal
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April 21, 2003, 10:20
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We really need to start linking related threads together for those of us who just get e-mail updates...
Pirates (depends on the map)
Drones
Spartans
Gaians
Lal
Uni
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April 21, 2003, 10:49
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SMAX[list=1][*]Cybernatic Conciousness[*]Data Angels[*]Spartans/Gaians[/list=1]
SMAC[list=1][*]Spartans[*]Hive[*]Gaians[/list=1]
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April 21, 2003, 11:15
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SMAC
1. UoP
2. Hive
3. Morgan
SMAX
1. CyCon
2. UoP
3. Angels...
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April 21, 2003, 11:22
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SMAC
1/2 Hive/Sparta (fun RPG )
3) UoP
SMAX
1) CyCon
2/3 Hive/Sparta
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April 21, 2003, 13:06
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SMAC
Gaians, Morgan, Hive; Believers if neccessary
SMAX
Don´t know that addon, so I´d join any team
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April 21, 2003, 13:45
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Smac
Gaians, Spartans, Morgan, Any
Smacx
Drones, Consciouness, Any
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April 24, 2003, 00:02
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I'd really be willing to join any team.
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April 24, 2003, 02:01
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SMAC:
1 Gaians
2 UN
3 UoP
SMAX:
1 Angels
2 Pirates
3 Planet Cult
Yes, I'm a tree-huggin', tech-lovin' (& plunderin' !!)liberal, what's yer point? ^_^
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Last edited by Makahlua; April 24, 2003 at 02:08.
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April 24, 2003, 05:00
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Originally posted by Static Universe
Smac
Gaians, Spartans, Morgan, Any
Smacx
Drones, Consciouness, Any
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Add Pirates to my Smacx list as well.
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April 24, 2003, 09:03
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SMAC
1 UoP
2 Gaians
3 Peacekeepers
SMAX
1 Data Angels
2 UoP
3 Gaians
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April 24, 2003, 09:52
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Originally posted by Makahlua
SMAC:
1 Gaians
2 UN
3 UoP
SMAX:
1 Angels
2 Pirates
3 Planet Cult
Yes, I'm a tree-huggin', tech-lovin' (& plunderin' !!)liberal, what's yer point? ^_^
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Except for the Angels, I like!
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April 24, 2003, 12:34
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I just about any faction that let's me RP as a female leader (except Miriam she scares me ) I only use Santi on 'stress-relief' games; that is, pounding the ******** out of anything and everything that gets in my way
Altho' it works with Dee/Fungus Boy and mind worms too
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April 24, 2003, 13:15
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I think that an interesting approach to this would be to have public decision-making for factions representing open "Democratic" societies and secret decision-making for factions representing closed "Totalitarian" societies. In other words, open societies would use threads to hash out their policies and moves, etc, while the closed societies would make their decisions in private and put whatever propaganda they wanted in the threads.
The category for each society could either be predetermined (like the Hive = Totalitarian and the Peacekeepers = Democratic) or it could depend on SE settings (If PoliceState, then secrecy OK; if Democracy, then openness required; if FreeMarket, economic matters are public; if Planned, then economic matters secret; Power=Military Secrecy; Wealth=Econ Secrecy; Knowledge=??; etc).
As to the particular teams, I guess I'd favor those with the more obvious ideologies, like the Hive, if we are to go this way. I suppose that Brother Lal would have a Democratic faction and Miriam another totalitarian one. After that the original 7 are probably a little gray, but Morgan is probably a democrat and while the rest could go either way, I would put Santi and Dierdra in the Demo category and Zak in the totalitarian mode. I don't have as clear an image with respect to the SMAX new factions, but if we went the SE route it wouldn't matter.
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April 24, 2003, 13:55
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Just an update on choices so far.
If SMAX pbem it is more a case of which factions at this stage are non runners in terms of first and second choices
Miriam
Peacekeepers
Cult
Spartans
Drones
Morgan
Factions with strong showing
UoP Core members Archaic GT
Cyber Cons Core members TKG, Maniac, Drogue
Data Angels Core members Makahlua, AdamTGO2, Hercules
Factions in the middle
Gaians Core members Micha, Flame?, Herc?, Makuhlua? AdamTGO?
Pirates Core members Flameflash, Static Universe
Hive Core members? Frankychan, War of Art
There is also Mr President and Micha's SMAX vote to consider and other regular posters choices.
I think with Makuhlua, AdamTGO and Hercules it could Data Angels or Gaians.
On the other hand Maka and Herc might join Pirates and Adam could join UoP
Also Flame and Static might join with Frankchan and War of Art for a Drones or Hive faction.
I think we are talking 3 maybe 4 human teams at most.
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April 24, 2003, 14:34
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I hope we don't get UoP, Angels and Cybergrrrl for the three teams. They're all a bit "knowledge over ethics" in their outlook. I'm sure anyone who voted for UoP could join a Cyber faction, and vice versa.
Just my 'umble opinon.
(BTW - with any luck Pan will join a socialist faction like the new improved friendly Hive faction )
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April 24, 2003, 15:05
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Based on the results of this poll, and presuming we play SMAX, is it ok if I start a new one-vote poll with the eight factions with three votes or more? That would be: UoP, Morgan, Gaia, Hive, PKs, Angels, Pirates, Consciousness. The first four or so would be the human factions participating. After that we could post another three-vote poll for the AI factions, if we play with AI factions of course.
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April 24, 2003, 15:18
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Go for if Maniac. Those 8 seem like a good selection
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April 24, 2003, 15:59
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Originally posted by Hercules
Also Flame and Static might join with Frankchan and War of Art for a Drones or Hive faction.
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I wouldn't mind being part of a Drones or Hive faction.
I agree these 8 seem like good choices.
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April 24, 2003, 19:17
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Originally posted by johndmuller
I think that an interesting approach to this would be to have public decision-making for factions representing open "Democratic" societies and secret decision-making for factions representing closed "Totalitarian" societies. In other words, open societies would use threads to hash out their policies and moves, etc, while the closed societies would make their decisions in private and put whatever propaganda they wanted in the threads.
The category for each society could either be predetermined (like the Hive = Totalitarian and the Peacekeepers = Democratic) or it could depend on SE settings (If PoliceState, then secrecy OK; if Democracy, then openness required; if FreeMarket, economic matters are public; if Planned, then economic matters secret; Power=Military Secrecy; Wealth=Econ Secrecy; Knowledge=??; etc).
As to the particular teams, I guess I'd favor those with the more obvious ideologies, like the Hive, if we are to go this way. I suppose that Brother Lal would have a Democratic faction and Miriam another totalitarian one. After that the original 7 are probably a little gray, but Morgan is probably a democrat and while the rest could go either way, I would put Santi and Dierdra in the Demo category and Zak in the totalitarian mode. I don't have as clear an image with respect to the SMAX new factions, but if we went the SE route it wouldn't matter.
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While I like this... maybe we should see how just the PBEM style works first... it might add a level of complication that would overwhelm newcomers to the game.
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April 24, 2003, 19:35
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Originally posted by Hercules
Factions in the middle
Gaians Core members Micha, Flame?, Herc?, Makuhlua? AdamTGO?
Pirates Core members Flameflash, Static Universe
Also Flame and Static might join with Frankchan and War of Art for a Drones or Hive faction.
I think we are talking 3 maybe 4 human teams at most.
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3-4 human teams is about what I expected in the first place...
Something else to consider: should we have a faction joining occurance? Say we're all on the Unity and we are seduced err... convinced to join factions?
Just for more of an RP experiance, really.
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April 25, 2003, 04:58
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Originally posted by FlameFlash
Something else to consider: should we have a faction joining occurance? Say we're all on the Unity and we are seduced err... convinced to join factions?
Just for more of an RP experiance, really.
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How would this occurance work?
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April 25, 2003, 05:03
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Originally posted by FlameFlash
While I like this... maybe we should see how just the PBEM style works first... it might add a level of complication that would overwhelm newcomers to the game.
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Honestly, I'm feeling a little overwhelmed already, and we haven't even started the game yet.
The possibilty of being on a 3 person team really throws my playing deficiencies into sharp relief. And right now, I'm not sure what kind of time commitment I can make as more or less an observer, much less as a third of a trio.
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April 25, 2003, 07:42
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UoP all the way, if I can get the time I'll probably be a UoP core member, where "core" does not stand for "expert". I don't like crawlers. Might consider Consciousness, Morgan, maybe Gaians...
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April 25, 2003, 07:49
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Originally posted by Kassiopeia
I don't like crawlers.
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April 25, 2003, 08:09
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Honestly, I'm feeling a little overwhelmed already, and we haven't even started the game yet.
The possibilty of being on a 3 person team really throws my playing deficiencies into sharp relief. And right
now, I'm not sure what kind of time commitment I can make as more or less an observer, much less as a third
of a trio.
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No the idea would be to have teams with at least 5+ members. early days yet so don't panic.
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April 25, 2003, 09:36
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Originally posted by Static Universe
How would this occurance work?
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Probably by just RPing it out in the Rec Commons or on a Unity thread or something... don't worry about it too much, it was just an idea.
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April 25, 2003, 09:46
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Originally posted by Kassiopeia
I don't like crawlers.
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Archaic's good but not so original reaction
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Why don't you like crawlers!?
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Static Universe said this...
Honestly, I'm feeling a little overwhelmed already, and we haven't even started the game yet.
The possibilty of being on a 3 person team really throws my playing deficiencies into sharp relief. And right
now, I'm not sure what kind of time commitment I can make as more or less an observer, much less as a third
of a trio.
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Hercules wisely responded with...
No the idea would be to have teams with at least 5+ members. early days yet so don't panic.
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Amen... certainly don't worry too much... plus, you've got oldie lurkers to help teach you how to properly lurk in a Demo game (visit the Rec Commons! )
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