WELCOME to SETTLER II ! - Page 5

Panag · May 1, 2003, 14:22

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Originally posted by MarkG
panag, on which page did you see this?

hi ,

this page , its working now

Q , how fast are they supposed to rotate

the "pauze button" for the quotes in between post's does not work , .....

have a nice day

average loading time now 6 sec

Panag · May 1, 2003, 14:47

hi ,

Mark , the chat seems to have a problem ;

welcome to apolyton's IRC chat
connecting to apolyton.net 6667
unable to connect to server
connection closed
connecting to apolyton.net 6667
unable to connect to server
connection closed

what gives

speed ( page loading ) is really up now

have a nice day

Rasbelin · May 1, 2003, 19:17

Jesus, did anyone happen to notice that it has been said in this and the other thread several times that ACS doesn't have an IRC server for now? Instead we have a new chatroom system which can be accessed using this link: http://apolyton.net/cgi-sys/mchat.cgi?channel=apolyton

I.e. there is no IRC server to connect to. Use the new chatroom system.

Panag · May 1, 2003, 19:26

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Originally posted by Rasbelin
Jesus, did anyone happen to notice that it has been said in this and the other thread several times that ACS doesn't have an IRC server for now? Instead we have a new chatroom system which can be accessed using this link: http://apolyton.net/cgi-sys/mchat.cgi?channel=apolyton

I.e. there is no IRC server to connect to. Use the new chatroom system.

hi ,

there is no-one there ( ever ) and it seems not to work from behind certain firewalls, ......

have a nice day

Chemical Ollie · May 6, 2003, 18:29

I have not taken the time to read this thread through, but did the move to a new server change my birthday in the profile? Or did someone hack my account?

Frozzy · May 7, 2003, 02:49

Everyone who's birthday is before 1970 had their birthday changed to December 31st 1969.

No one knows why or how.

BigFree · May 13, 2003, 05:55

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Originally posted by Rasbelin
Jesus, did anyone happen to notice that it has been said in this and the other thread several times that ACS doesn't have an IRC server for now? Instead we have a new chatroom system which can be accessed using this link: http://apolyton.net/cgi-sys/mchat.cgi?channel=apolyton

I.e. there is no IRC server to connect to. Use the new chatroom system.

When you say "...for now"; Does that mean there will eventually be one again?

The ISDG and the PTWDG has been using DALNet & UnderNet since Apolyton's irc server went down. The SPDG II is using just UnderNet.

If it is permanently down, I'd just like to know.

Thanks.

BigFree · May 13, 2003, 05:59

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Originally posted by Frozzy
Everyone who's birthday is before 1970 had their birthday changed to December 31st 1969.

No one knows why or how.

Me neither. I've attempted to change it back to what it is supposed to be, but the information doesn't change in my profile.

Skanky Burns · May 13, 2003, 06:47

Its a coding problem somewhere. The database portion of Apolyton is fine (as it stores the correct value) but some parts of Apolyton that retreive that value convert it incorrectly, setting the date to the "beginning of time" for computers, which is midnight, 1st of January 1970. The 1969 date occurs when different time-zones take a few hours off the date.

Rasbelin · May 13, 2003, 07:22

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Originally posted by BigFree

When you say "...for now"; Does that mean there will eventually be one again?

I can't give any official response on the behalf of Markos, but I assume as it now looks like, I get to the conclusion which I had back over one week ago. The new chatroom system will stay as it's being used (some at least have said that they have used it) and as there doesn't seem to be a need for something else either. I myself second this view as the demand meets the supply right now, so why to bother Markos with more work, when I'm quite sure he's no unemployed either.

Panag · May 13, 2003, 16:22

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Originally posted by Rasbelin

I can't give any official response on the behalf of Markos, but I assume as it now looks like, I get to the conclusion which I had back over one week ago. The new chatroom system will stay as it's being used (some at least have said that they have used it) and as there doesn't seem to be a need for something else either. I myself second this view as the demand meets the supply right now, so why to bother Markos with more work, when I'm quite sure he's no unemployed either.

hi ,

the new one , well if its the new one ( see sig ) works okay , its stable , not to many options , just back to basics but it does what it is made for

have a nice day

link to chat below in sig (!)

Chemical Ollie · May 13, 2003, 17:16

So it's the Y1.97K bug?

Skanky Burns · May 13, 2003, 18:39

Markos: Just wondering what is happening with the IRC chatroom? Is it coming back?

Oerdin · May 13, 2003, 18:43

We want IRC!

Rasbelin · May 14, 2003, 01:21

Skanky,

see my post above.

Oerdin,

we already have a working chatroom system.

BigFree · May 14, 2003, 02:03

Yes, there's a chat room, but with nowhere near the capabilities it had before. So to say it's "working" isn't fair if you were to compare it to what we had before.

Maybe it doesn't matter to you much, but to some it does. I'd like to see Apolyton's irc server back like it was.

vondrack · May 14, 2003, 09:40

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Originally posted by BigFree
Maybe it doesn't matter to you much, but to some it does. I'd like to see Apolyton's irc server back like it was.

I would humbly second this request.

I have never been a big chatroom regular, but ever since I got heavily involved in Civ3 PtWDG and ISDG games, I have been using the Apolyton IRC server almost 24/7. It would be so nice to have it back... DALnet or UnderNet are hardly a substitute for me, due to various reasons.

Rasbelin · May 14, 2003, 10:44

You can always ask Markos to add rooms to the current system, which supports multiple chatrooms and such, so your DGs can have their chatrooms already. Installing an IRCD for having a halfblood IRC server is waste of time. The current system ok, as long as Markos adds rooms for the DGs.

BigFree · May 14, 2003, 12:02

You are completely missing the point Rabelin. The current system lacks nearly all the "bells and whistles" that we had previously. We could create channels and put passwords on them as needed. This would allow us to hold chats with other teams in a controlled environment.

I've played around with the new chat system, and to say it is lacking is an understatement.

Please, MarkG, can we have the old system back?

Rasbelin · May 14, 2003, 12:42

I oppose the suggestion as most likely plenty of other more urgent issues on Markos' tasklist. If he has time for it in the future, then that's a different issue, but IMO we shouldn't demand too much as then other things will suffer.

BigFree · May 14, 2003, 13:17

I hardly think I "demanded" anything. This is a private site run by individuals not a corporation, they can do as they see fit. To accept reasonable requests or to ignore everyone; that's their choice. It's our choice to come here, leave, or stay.

How would you know what "tasks" MarkG has on his list and what kind of time he has to do them? Are you his new assistant? Maybe you are....

It is just my "request" that the irc system be restored.

Ming · May 14, 2003, 13:39

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Originally posted by BigFree
To accept reasonable requests or to ignore everyone; that's their choice.

And gee MarkG, have you stopped beating your wife...

Frist... how do you know it's a reasonable request? Maybe there are problems in doing what you ask.

Second... How do you know He's ignoring you... maybe he's trying to do what you ask or has added your request to his priority list.

Running a site the size of this one takes up a lot of his free time...

vondrack · May 14, 2003, 13:43

The biggest problem I have with Java chatrooms is that I can't use mIRC with its great set of handy features. Logging, multiple chats/windows, cut&paste, triggers others can use to draw my attention to the chat, if I am just having it running in the background, doing something else... it is about the functionality (and in certain aspects, about one's comfort).

I agree with BigFree, it would be nice to have the old IRC back - I don't say how important it is compared to other things and how much of a priority it should be. I understand many people do not need the features I frequently use(d). I am just saying I would be happy to have it back.

EDIT: crossposted with Ming - we understand it takes a lot of effort to get Settler II up and running at full speed. But if there is a problem preventing the IRC from being reenabled in its former state or a plan to bring it back, could you tell us, please? Many of us hang out there in the cold, on IRC servers that are much less friendly than the old Poly IRC was, hoping to be able to come back home to here soon... if we knew it's not going to happen, we'd probably spend some time finding ourselves a more permanent IRC residence somewhere... thanks.

Ming · May 14, 2003, 13:52

Well... there are also other people who would be very happy if their own personal favorite things they would like to see done to this site were added as well

So you are indeed correct... It really comes down to priorities for MarkG and DanQ. This is only a hobby for them, and not their full time job. And I'm sure they have real lives to attend to as well

Edit also for crosspost

I wish I could answer the question, but only Mark or Dan can. They have been very busy working on other things with the site... But that's all I know.

BigFree · May 14, 2003, 13:55

I'm still giving it time Ming; if a week or so goes by and there's not an answer to my request, then I'll consider myself "ignored." It wouldn't be the first time nor the last in my life.

As far as the request being reasonable or not, that is left for MarkG to answer. I only know that the system existed before and now it does not. If MarkG says that it's not "reasonable" to get it back, I'll believe him.

My post wasn't to sound that I feel I'm already being ignored or that I felt that my particular request was reasonable, they were very general statements about how this site could be run; it's just to say that it is up to the owner's to do as they wish.

I'm positive that running this site takes up quite a bit of time, something that all memeber's here must appreciate to some degree.

Ming · May 14, 2003, 14:01

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Originally posted by BigFree
I'm positive that running this site takes up quite a bit of time, something that all memeber's here must appreciate to some degree.

Yes... it's amazing how much of their time they give just to provide us with a site that many call home. However, lately, it seems like not all members of this private site appreciate that fact. Mark and Dan deserve a lot of credit and respect for all they've done for the civ and gaming community... yet it seems many people want to dump on them for simply running their private site as they wish. It's a shame...

Rasbelin · May 14, 2003, 14:14

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Many of us hang out there in the cold, on IRC servers that are much less friendly than the old Poly IRC was, hoping to be able to come back home to here soon...

That applies to all ACS DG activities which have been concentrated to large IRC networks for now. As for friendliness, the level on ACS' halfblooded IRC server was as good as on any major network like DALnet, EFnet, etc.

Chemical Ollie · May 14, 2003, 16:12

Will the Y1.97K bug be fixed? Or will all us old farts be 33 forever?

Rasbelin · May 14, 2003, 16:23

Don't you enjoy your eternal youth?

Ben Kenobi · May 16, 2003, 13:03

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yet it seems many people want to dump on them for simply running their private site as they wish. It's a shame...

On that note,

THANK YOU MARKOS!