Aggregate in Soccer

Tis I · April 24, 2003, 13:26

I was watching the Real Madrid vs Manchester United game and i'm wondering how the aggregate score used to determine the winner is calculated....

alva · April 24, 2003, 13:29

Goals scored away count double.

(well, not really, but, damned this harder to explain then I thought.., pleas don't let your next question be about off-side

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Urban Ranger · April 24, 2003, 13:34

Goals scored away count more than goals scored at home. So if the result is a tie, the winner will be the team that scored more away goals.

Arrian · April 24, 2003, 13:39

Right, so if ManU wins at home 3-1, and loses @ Real Madrid 2-0, Real Madrid wins, because though both teams scored 3 goals, Real scored one away, and all of ManU's goals came at home.

I think.

-Arrian

Zopperoni · April 24, 2003, 13:40

If we take Real - Man U match as an example of a "clear win", we see that:

Leg 1: Real - Man U 3-1
Leg 2: Man U - Real 4-3

Total: Real - Man U 6-5

Real's scored more than Man U and thus advances in the tournament.

Now we look at the Inter - Valencia clash:

Leg 1: Inter - Valencia 1-0
Leg 2: Valencia - Inter 2-1

Total: Inter - Valencia 2-2

However, goals scored away have more value, and because Inter managed to score away, but Valencia did not, Inter advances.

The last case is Juventus - Barcelona:

Leg 1: Juventus - Barcelone 1-1
Leg 2: Barcelona - Juventus 1-1

Total: Juventus - Barcelona 2-2

A dead heat. When such a situation occurs, extra time of 2*15 minutes will be played (no "golden goal"). Juventus scored once in ET, and at the end of 120 minutes of play, it was 1-2 to Juventus so they advanced.
If no goals are scored in ET, a penalty shootout will have to decide who advances.

Kropotkin · April 24, 2003, 13:45

Well damn it. This is basic knowledge. It's the natural order of things. I think it's even in the Bible. In the Koran for sure.

Aro · April 24, 2003, 13:54

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Originally posted by Kropotkin
Well damn it. This is basic knowledge. It's the natural order of things. I think it's even in the Bible. In the Koran for sure.

Yep. And it's in the Brazilian Constitution, too. That's why we're soooo good...

Kropotkin · April 24, 2003, 13:56

That what it says in that short text you've got on your flag, right?

Sten Sture · April 24, 2003, 13:58

During the ManU/Real match yesterday, Real, already leading 3-1 from the first leg scored in the 50th to go up 2-1 on the day. That second away goal gave them the tie breaking advantage over ManU from the score of the first match and required ManU to score better than a 4-2 victory since that 5-5 aggregate draw would see them lose on away goals. At that time both teams knew ManU needed to score at least 4 more goals in the last 40 minutes to advance.

You may also wonder about replays...

In some competitions, such as England's FA Cup, if the first match is drawn, then a second match is played at the opposing home field. If the score of the second match is a draw at the end of regulation time, then two extra periods are played. If the scores are still level then it goes to penalty kicks to decide the winner.

Aro · April 24, 2003, 14:07

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Originally posted by Kropotkin
That what it says in that short text you've got on your flag, right?

Yep. The text says "Ordem e Progresso", and this means exactly "Goals scored away count more than goals scored at home”.

Kropotkin · April 24, 2003, 14:08

In the good old days the FA cup didn't stop at one replay match. Those where the days...

Kropotkin · April 24, 2003, 14:09

"Ordem e Progresso"

Well I guess it could have been about the offside rule as well...

Aro · April 24, 2003, 14:11

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Originally posted by Kropotkin
"Ordem e Progresso"

Well I guess it could have been about the offside rule as well...

Nope, the offside rules are in our National Anthem...