April 26, 2003, 07:16
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Deity
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Ah yes, it's becoming much clearer
U.S. Wants to Shut Down UN Controls on Iraq's Oil
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In the main, the resolution would end U.N. control over the lucrative oil-for-food program. Currently Iraq's oil revenues go into a U.N. escrow fund from which suppliers of food, medicine and a host of civilian goods are paid.
The new measure, according to U.N. diplomats familiar with the U.S. proposal, would create a development fund with oil revenues and give the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund some oversight duties.
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So the US appears to be unable to wait any longer to get its hands over Iraqi oil. Not surprising at all.
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April 26, 2003, 07:21
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King
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What? The US wants the oil in the region?! Since when?!
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April 26, 2003, 08:05
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Deity
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The UN gets billions of that money annually to oversee the program. Give me billions and I'll oversee it. Oil for food isn't supposed to be "lucrative". The UN is corrupt, the reason for having an oil for food program has gone the way of Saddam. So should the sanctions once the French and Russians realize that they can't keep their fingers in the Iraqi pie.
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April 26, 2003, 08:49
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King
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Its ok when its the UN even though its corrupt and France gets all the best oil deals, but as soon as the US tries to get its share for liberating the region and allowing oil to flow freely again its evil ??
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April 26, 2003, 08:53
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Deity
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Ranger, you beat a death horse into oblivion.
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April 26, 2003, 09:34
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Prince
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Originally posted by Lazerus
Its ok when its the UN even though its corrupt and France gets all the best oil deals, but as soon as the US tries to get its share for liberating the region and allowing oil to flow freely again its evil ??
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shouldn't it be up to the Iraqis who gets the 'best deals'?
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April 26, 2003, 09:38
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Deity
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I think the Iraqi's should be as happy as pigs in slop.
In fact, overall, I think they are.
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April 26, 2003, 10:14
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Prince
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
I think the Iraqi's should be as happy as pigs in slop.
In fact, overall, I think they are.
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ah yes, the condecending, 'be grateful, we know whats best' approach to imperilism! It served the Briish Empire well for years...
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April 26, 2003, 10:37
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The U.S. oil companies are no doubt the happiest of all and I think they need to pay or the war now right off the top of any deals that are made.I don't see that happening they think they gave a ample excuse for siezing that oil and now the only help they ll offer will be to make them look like great humanitarians.Yippy!!
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April 26, 2003, 10:45
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King
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What a perfect little scheme, invade a country and squeeze them for reparations.
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April 26, 2003, 11:43
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Prince
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Oh really?
C'mon Euros, if the U.S. really wanted war for oil, we'd be in Venezuela instead of Iraq. :yawn:
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April 26, 2003, 12:17
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Prince
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Re: Oh really?
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Originally posted by HolyWarrior
C'mon Euros, if the U.S. really wanted war for oil, we'd be in Venezuela instead of Iraq. :yawn:
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And if the US really wanted WMD, they'd be in North Korea, but they're not are they?:big stretch and yawn:
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April 26, 2003, 13:26
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Deity
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Not yet.
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April 26, 2003, 13:36
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Good idea!
Iraq's development will be tied to their oil. They'll need to be able to sell it on the open market so their country earns some cash.
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April 26, 2003, 13:37
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April 27, 2003, 09:15
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Deity
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Ranger, you beat a death horse into oblivion.
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I am rubbing this into the faces of those who kept denying there is a significant component of controlling Iraqi oil for the invasion.
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April 27, 2003, 09:20
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Kill the death horse. Kill!!1!1!!!!!
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April 27, 2003, 09:28
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Deity
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Originally posted by Lancer
The UN gets billions of that money annually to oversee the program.
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Does not. No wonder you hate the UN. Your idea of it bears no relationship to the actual organisation.
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April 27, 2003, 09:37
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Deity
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Originally posted by Lancer
The UN gets billions of that money annually to oversee the program.
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Ah, is that why the US wants control now? Oil money?
Thanks for backing me up.
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April 27, 2003, 09:39
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Deity
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Wonder how many oil contracts Halliburton is getting. We never hear Lancer complaining about Halliburton.
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April 27, 2003, 09:50
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Deity
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The US was giving out contracts to rebuild Basra to US companies even before the Brits took it. This irked the Brits so much that they said the Iraqi people should be the ones deciding the contracts.
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April 27, 2003, 10:08
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King
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At the very least we should benefit from our villainy. What happened to honour amongst thieves?
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April 27, 2003, 10:51
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Deity
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The Brits are clearly not as sneaky.
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