April 28, 2003, 17:34
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Are we really liberators? US Troops break up Saddam birthday party in Tikrit.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._birthday_dc_1
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"We only want to celebrate peacefully,"" primary school teacher Sabahan Harez, 50, said. "Where is the freedom of expression the Americans boast so much about."
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April 28, 2003, 17:37
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Who in their right mind would want to hold a birthday party for that man? I would of broke that birthday party up myself....
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April 28, 2003, 17:38
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Originally posted by Fez
Who in their right mind would want to hold a birthday party for that man? I would of broke that birthday party up myself....
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Freedom of Expression, Fez.
If I wanted to, I could hold a birthday party for him right now, and I'd have every right to.
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April 28, 2003, 17:39
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i think that people will use any excuse for a holiday. we still have columbus day!!
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April 28, 2003, 17:39
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You missed a better one:
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Young girls in bright red dresses jumped on the spot holding up portraits of him and chanted: "We will sacrifice our souls and blood for Saddam Hussein."
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Nope, can't see any security issues with such a pleasant group of peace loving Iraqis...
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Some residents said Saddam's iron rule had only taught the people to make a show of loving him, even if they did not feel it.
"The truth is people hate him. I do," Ali Abdullah, 50, a wheat farmer, said. "I care more about this old shoe here with the hole in it more than I do about Saddam."
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April 28, 2003, 17:40
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Tass, thanks for misquoting the article. 
It seems like people were gonna commit suicide missions for Saddam.
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April 28, 2003, 17:40
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why not let them celebrate?
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April 28, 2003, 17:44
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Originally posted by orange
why not let them celebrate?
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gunk looks like he provided an adequate answer in the first half of his post.
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April 28, 2003, 17:45
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In case it wasn't obvious, the "We will sacrifice our souls and blood for Saddam Hussein" blah is inciting violence, when American troops are still getting shot at in Tikrit.
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April 28, 2003, 17:45
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so people are not free to supprot saddam and bomb americans who are on their soil?
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April 28, 2003, 17:45
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Nope, can't see any security issues with such a pleasant group of peace loving Iraqis...
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And if an American says they'd sacrafice their blood for America, should the entire world view it as a secuirty threat?
They haven't done anything, they haven't threatened to do anything. Therefore its freedom of speech.
Ok, then he has ever right to leave the party. However, US troops going in and acting like the place is under martial law.....Is inexcusable.
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Tass, thanks for misquoting the article.
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It's not a misquote, fez Just read the article, and feel englightenened
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It seems like people were gonna commit suicide missions for Saddam.
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They never said that. If someone in America says "I hate them arabs. We should go bomb them.", then should there be a pre-emptive strike? I mean, that could mean that hes going to slaughter some Arabs.....
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Originally posted by orange
why not let them celebrate?
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Cause the US doesn't want them to
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April 28, 2003, 17:47
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Originally posted by DanS
In case it wasn't obvious, the "We will sacrifice our souls and blood for Saddam Hussein" blah is inciting violence, when American troops are still getting shot at in Tikrit.
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Again, I've heard MANY people talk about bombing arabs and how they all are evil and need to die.....
Thats inciting violence as well. But as long as they do nothing, we cannot stop them from saying these things.
Your also forgetting that it was ONE person who said that......Theres always one person who will say that in most protests/celebrations, Dan
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April 28, 2003, 17:47
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They should have let them celebrate. Freedom of speech. Or have you all forgotten that?
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April 28, 2003, 17:47
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I believe it was a misquote. Infact you didn't even quote the article...
Tass... give it a rest...
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April 28, 2003, 17:49
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But as long as they do nothing, we cannot stop them from saying these things.
Sure we can, if there are Arabs around.
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April 28, 2003, 17:50
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Tassadar, a war zone is by definition under marshall law. No cessation of hostilities has been declared by eithier side.
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April 28, 2003, 17:51
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I believe it was a misquote. Infact you didn't even quote the article...
Tass... give it a rest...
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 Fez, try READING the article for once Here, let me show you a picture I just took......
Oopsies, fez?
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April 28, 2003, 17:52
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Tassadar, a war zone is by definition under marshall law. No cessation of hostilities has been declared by eithier side.
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Alright......So we don't bother breaking up pro-american celebrations we'll break up celebrations for Saddam.....
We Americans aren't invaders! Honest!!! Were simply doing it for their own good
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April 28, 2003, 17:53
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Who in their right mind would want to hold a birthday party for that man? I would of broke that birthday party up myself....
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FEZ! You're back buddy! Good to see you man; the place isn't as diverse without you around.
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April 28, 2003, 17:53
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FEZ! You're back buddy! Good to see you man; the place isn't as diverse without you around.
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He may be back, but he hasn't changed a bit
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April 28, 2003, 17:54
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Sure we can, if there are Arabs around.
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Racist.
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April 28, 2003, 17:55
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Read his whole post, you POS. Don't take my words out of context.
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April 28, 2003, 17:55
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You use the [ quote ] and [/ quote ] features. Not the attachment. Plus you have proven nothing besides your own lack of intelligence.
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April 28, 2003, 17:57
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Alright......So we don't bother breaking up pro-american celebrations we'll break up celebrations for Saddam.....
We Americans aren't invaders! Honest!!! Were simply doing it for their own good
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Do you realize how ignorant this sounds? I suppose you're also not happy that the conquoring WW2 allies outlawed the Nazi party and forced the German, well West German, government to be deNazified. I think we can all agree that (West) Germany has been a true democracy for the last 50-60 years even though bastard Nazis weren't/aren't allowed to hold public rallies.
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April 28, 2003, 17:57
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Don't assume Tikriti opinion representative of Iraqi opinion as a whole, Tikrit is Saddam's hometown
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April 28, 2003, 17:57
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You use the [ quote ] and [/ quote ] features. Not the attachment.
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But yousee: I QUOTED THE ARTICLE, WORD FOR WORD.
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Plus you have proven nothing besides your own lack of intelligence.
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I'm not the one who said it wasn't even in the article fez........Guess who said this quote:
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Infact you didn't even quote the article...
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April 28, 2003, 17:58
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Alright......So we don't bother breaking up pro-american celebrations we'll break up celebrations for Saddam.....
We Americans aren't invaders! Honest!!! Were simply doing it for their own good
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Ultimately your final paragraph will prove to be true. Stabilization has to be achieved before all freedoms can be restored. No one said we weren't invaders. They just said we are not occupiers. The US government has repeatedly said that we will stay no longer than necessary to turn Iraq over to the Iraqi people. In the interim, it is in everyone's best interest that the country be stabilized. To suggest anything else is irresponsible.
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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
we cannot stop them from saying these things.
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We obviously can. Otherwise you wouldn't have made a thread about it.
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April 28, 2003, 17:59
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Tass, you have problems. I don't know what is wrong with you.. but you are missing the point, the area in question, Iraq, is under martial law for the time being as there is still hostilities.
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April 28, 2003, 18:00
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I suppose you're also not happy that the conquoring WW2 allies outlawed the Nazi party and forced the German, well West German, government to be deNazified.
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Yes, because it was certifiable that the Nazi Party hated us. But you see: The Nazi Party is a POLITICAL PARTY.
Even here in America there are pro-nazi rallies. We should bring OUR freedom to them, not change the freedom around a bit to only hold pro-american celebrations.
And I think its a shame Germany won't allow the glorifying of a criminal event or any nazi symbols AT ALL or any mention of Hitler AT ALL or.........Because thats freedom of speech and expression, and Germany does not quite have it yet.
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