USJ Comes to the Aid of an Ally

Jack_www · April 30, 2003, 14:35

The Atheist Empire is going to declare war agains the Catholic Confederation. In the Catholic Confederation we have an ally that has stood by us ever since they existed, and we are now in the process of the largest call up of our forces in our entire history as a nation.
This is an unprovoked attack against one of our allies and we are coming to their defense.

We understand if the nations of Apolyton want no part in this, but we must help our allies in their time of need.
We ask any nations here to help in their defense, as the Atheist Empire is a threat to the entire world, one that we cannot simply ignore.

Drogue · April 30, 2003, 16:36

Can you provide details. While I will enter the battle on neither side at the moment, I would like to know what the details are, so I can make an informed decision as to how to try to negociate this. Ideologically I would want the Atheists to win, but if they are the aggressor, then of course I wil not support them.

Is there a thread for this.

Jack_www · April 30, 2003, 20:59

This is an unprovoked attack. They simply want to destroy all religion and that is why they are attacking. So far no threads, but you can check their regional board, its all there. I dont think they will negociate.

Archaic · May 1, 2003, 04:51

Meanwhile, the Catholic Confederation freely admit their murder of "heretics" and a recent Inquisition on their own regional board. If they're attacked for killing their own citizens, quite frankly, they've asked for it.

GeneralTacticus · May 1, 2003, 05:02

Can somebody provide a link to this 'Catholic Confederation'?

Sheep · May 1, 2003, 06:14

The Treaty of Mt.Gravatt while not extolling the virtues of Catholic Fanatism will help ur friends in the USJ. The entire armed forces of Sheepsta and New Griffith have been mobilised to meet this very threat.

Jack_www · May 1, 2003, 09:10

Here is a link to the thread that was made today,
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/vi...=302341#302341

Giovanni Wine · May 1, 2003, 09:48

The Kingdom of Wine is populated by 95% by Catholic (like RL Italy), and is therefore very alarmed by the threat of an Atheist Empire declaring war on other Catholic nations, and the population is pressing the government to issue support to the Catholic Federation.

It is strange how Wine is on one side attacked by a Catholic Fundamentalist Terrorist Organization, and on the other side we might find ourselves at war in order to defend our Catholic culture, and our right to be follower of that religion.

Saluti

Thalami · May 1, 2003, 11:23

=Philosopher-King of Thalami=
-Member of the Atheist Empire-

I came to the region of Apolyton to inform you of the current events plaguing our region and world. The Catholic Confederation has begun "cleansing" of the freethinkers in their lands, and it doesn't appear that we're getting a fair hand in with many of these lands.

The Atheist Empire cannot sit back and let this continue, for we do not see people in ethnicity, religion, or political views; but we do see our like-minds being destroyed.

This, combined with threats upon our people to be converted, is why the Atheist Empire is on the brink of war. I hope you see through the double-speak being espouted by the Catholic Confederation.

They were revelling in the blood of the "heretics" until they were threatened, then disavowed any knowledge that they helped Belem. I should know, I watched it all happen.

So we ask your help, in any form, neutrality, or military assistance in putting and end to this double-speaking, backstabbing region.

Thank you.

Sheep · May 1, 2003, 11:59

The Treaty of Mt.Gravatt completely rejects the Athesit demands and tells them to bugger off.

Drogue · May 1, 2003, 16:31

Zetaris and Akiria will not be telling another nations to bugger off at all, and as we abhore the actions of both sides, we will remain firmly neutral in this.

Method · May 1, 2003, 17:19

Tea Kaygia agrees, and though the Federation of Method is itching to provide a demonstration of its military capabilities, it also agrees with drug.

Drogue · May 1, 2003, 18:18

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Mr. President · May 1, 2003, 19:59

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Originally posted by Drogue
Zetaris and Akiria will not be telling another nations to bugger off at all, and as we abhore the actions of both sides, we will remain firmly neutral in this.

The same for Dakmoristan.

Method · May 1, 2003, 20:09

Quote:

Originally posted by Drogue
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that explains it

Jack_www · May 2, 2003, 01:21

Only one nation has commited any crimes against humanity, that nation is Belem, which was created a short while ago(3 days ago). Just arround the time when the nation Thalami was talking about war.

Also the CC region we expect is going to kick Belem out of their region.

Urban Ranger · May 2, 2003, 01:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Sheep
The Treaty of Mt.Gravatt completely rejects the Athesit demands and tells them to bugger off.

Is this treaty not a defensive one? If so, since no signer of the treaty was attacked, I cannot see how it can be invoked.

ceroomaster · May 3, 2003, 10:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Jack_www
Only one nation has commited any crimes against humanity, that nation is Belem, which was created a short while ago(3 days ago). Just arround the time when the nation Thalami was talking about war.

Also the CC region we expect is going to kick Belem out of their region.

Then we see no resaon to interefere at this time. Especially as the nation is so small and can be easily deat with without any intervention from and Apolyton member nation.

edit: awful spelling

Archaic · May 3, 2003, 11:15

Jackson, withdraw your troops from the CC before you get the whole region involved. Regardless of which side is right or not, this is not a war any of us can afford to get ourselves involved in.

Urban Ranger · May 3, 2003, 11:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Thalami
This, combined with threats upon our people to be converted, is why the Atheist Empire is on the brink of war. I hope you see through the double-speak being espouted by the Catholic Confederation.

If this is indeed true, the attack cannot be said to be "unprovoked."

Jackson, it appears that the Catholic Confederation have been engaged in some underhanded antics. I suggest you not to interfere.

Jack_www · May 3, 2003, 12:05

So far no fighting has broken out, and we believe our carriers have detered them some. THe Catholic Confederation has never made any offensive moves against the Atheist Empire. This is an unprovoked attack, and one of our allies is in that region, we are requied to come to their aid.

It seems as if Apolyton wishes to remain isolated fromt he rest of the world, and Jackson understand this. But you cannot hide from the world forever.

Drogue · May 3, 2003, 13:24

No, we can't. If any of them attack us, we will retaliate. Moreover, we do not wish to remain isolated, but we do not see either side as 'right'. The CC are trying to promote and push Catholicism, something I would be against (I hate forced religion, or indoctrination, with a passion) but the Atheist Empire have acted aggressively, which is also not good. That is why Akiria and Zetaris will remain neutral.

Urban Ranger · May 4, 2003, 09:20

Using convert missions and such in attempts to "convert" the citizens of other countries is plain and simple political agitation. The Dominion of Noosland also considers the carrying out of a reign of terror against atheists a form of religious persecution, it should be condemned with the strongest terms.

Jack_www · May 5, 2003, 13:44

We are happy to say that war has not broken out so far. It seems the Atheist Empire is big on words but not actions.
We strongly believe that with cooler heads we can peacefully end this conflict with no blood shed on etheir side.

The USJ is simply coming to the aid of an ally, The Commonwealth of Oakeshottland, who does hold religious freedom highly and has done nothing to the Atheist Empire to deserve this treament from them. As for the rest of the CC region we cannot say much about them, since we do not have close ties with the rest of the nations there. But again what they do is up to them, allthough we oppose such actions and try our best to stop them. Also anther atheist region, ICV region has done even worse then this, yet the CC region and others never went to war with them and we were able to stop the execution of their religious prisoners with out bloodshed.

Jack_www · May 6, 2003, 14:20

USJ forces are now pulling out of CC region, but a small number will remain in The Commonwealth of Oakeshottland to make sure the peace stays for a long time. One 5 Division of troops will stay behind along with 4 aircraft carriers, which now have a home port their now. We will start constructing base housing so that the families of the troops can live there.

The rest are now coming home, and all of Jackson will welcome them back, as they stoped a war from even starting without a shot fired.

Drogue · May 6, 2003, 15:57

Well done Jack

That last sentance is a lesson to everyone. Stop wars without firing bullets