May 6, 2003, 16:28
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Actually I think you overestimate the Consciousness. Personally I consider the Cybernetic advantages smaller than the UoP's (free network nodes!), Pirates' (aquatic bonus!) and Hive's (PS-Planned without a problem, huge industry bonus!).
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May 6, 2003, 16:33
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You think myself and Maniac would ever agree with Archaic and GT on fundamental issues? It'll never happen. We have enough realpolitik to hold an alliance together if it benefits us both, but we'd never manage to merge.
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May 6, 2003, 18:35
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yeah, what maniac said. the CyCon is probably the least powerful faction here
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May 6, 2003, 19:06
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As I read it, this guys wants to show the other guys some moves. When they drop out of the game having done that, there will be what amounts to another Hive with better prod run by the AI. Take a guess at who benefits most from that.
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May 6, 2003, 21:25
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I don't believe they will drop out.
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May 6, 2003, 21:34
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I've both played in, and CMN'd, a number of games involving Buster.
If he joins in, he'll play to win
Googlie
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May 6, 2003, 22:37
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Perhaps... but the Cybernetic Consciousness is fun to roleplay!
Besides, they do have their advantages (although the fact that they're a race of Cyborgs who don't get free network nodes kind of erks me). In any case, I don't think a merge would be a good idea. The reason I joined the CyCon was to join a research-based faction without unbalancing the game by creating one faction with a whole hoard of members.
But you still won't beat us... you cannot compete with perfection.
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May 7, 2003, 00:59
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Remember, too, that with spoils turned off, only the CyCon get the techsteal ability when conquering a base.
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May 7, 2003, 03:31
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I'm sure the Cycon is more likely to ally with the Hive than with the UoP - aren't they a breakaway faction from the opression of Zak and his minions - aren't they sensible people/robots who apperciate a well ordered, planned society?
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May 7, 2003, 03:42
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Actually, read the SMACX manual - they were created from a Hive computer sub-routine, with nothing whatever to do with the UoP
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May 7, 2003, 04:13
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Well, I'm sure you're technology was in there somewhere. But yes, perfection and telepathy does seem more totalitarian Hive traits. And yes, we are the only ones with techsteal Else we would really suck!
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For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
But he would think of something
"Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker
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May 7, 2003, 04:31
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Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Actually, read the SMACX manual - they were created from a Hive computer sub-routine, with nothing whatever to do with the UoP
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I beg to differ
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The Cybernetic Consciousness
This faction is led by a mysterious figure from Unity who has apparently been part of an experiment in artificial intellegence. It is surmised a reserch technician working for Prokhor Zakharov was subjected to an implanted AI algorithm, and is now sharing her consciousness with this intelligence. Etc....
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SMAX manual page 8 2nd Paragraph.
(consider the book thrown at you )
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May 7, 2003, 05:09
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Originally posted by Corellion
But you still won't beat us... you cannot compete with perfection.
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Logic is not on your side History is on OUR side. We will bury you
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May 7, 2003, 05:22
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Is it just me or is Akizeta somewhat attractive, in a weird sorta way?
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For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
But he would think of something
"Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker
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May 7, 2003, 05:44
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Originally posted by War of Art It is surmised
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And consider the book thrown back at you.
Though from the story, it's rather plain to see that while a Hive Computer joined a dead PK Talent to make a Cyborg, there were others beforehand. In the extended SMAX story which you can download from Firaxis, the UoP and Cyborgs allied against the Cult and Drones to try and protect the Alien Temple, before the Pirates stole part of the Temple being transported back to University Base.
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May 7, 2003, 06:33
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heck is it too late or can I join the University of planet
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May 7, 2003, 06:34
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Yes, that's what I was referring to. Moreover, WoA, you claimed that:
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aren't they a breakaway faction from the opression of Zak and his minions
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Which is clearly not the case (they made an alliance with Zakharov, after all), and the fact that they were originally developed by the UoP doesn't indicate a great deal.
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May 7, 2003, 06:41
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Is this even still a sign-up thread?
If so, or even if not, I have decided that it's the pirates life for me, may the ocean waves propell us close enough to drive our swords into the hearts of the blasted landlubbers! Or chaos guns, however the tides may turn. Nyarrrgh!!!!!
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May 7, 2003, 06:42
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Yes, it's still a sign-up thread, it just got a bit off topic. I'll leave it up to our resident pirates to welcome you into their team...
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May 7, 2003, 06:54
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arr, good then. Now I believe I was promised a parrot
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May 7, 2003, 07:33
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And it was a pirate spy who created the sub routine in the first place, so we know all about their weaknesses
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May 7, 2003, 08:06
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Originally posted by Hercules
And it was a pirate spy who created the sub routine in the first place, so we know all about their weaknesses
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Pirate propoganda.
A drunken sailor who spills fungus rum on a computer and causes a glitch does not qualify as a "spy".
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May 7, 2003, 08:37
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Just like a drunken sailor who creates a sea shanty is not a composer It's not music dammit!
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For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
But he would think of something
"Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker
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May 7, 2003, 10:05
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Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Actually, read the SMACX manual - they were created from a Hive computer sub-routine, with nothing whatever to do with the UoP
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That in and of itself is scary!
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The Cybernetic Consciousness
This faction is led by a mysterious figure from Unity who has apparently been part of an experiment in artificial intellegence. It is surmised a reserch technician working for Prokhor Zakharov was subjected to an implanted AI algorithm, and is now sharing her consciousness with this intelligence. Etc....
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That's worse!
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Originally posted by Archaic
And consider the book thrown back at you.
Though from the story, it's rather plain to see that while a Hive Computer joined a dead PK Talent to make a Cyborg, there were others beforehand. In the extended SMAX story which you can download from Firaxis, the UoP and Cyborgs allied against the Cult and Drones to try and protect the Alien Temple, before the Pirates stole part of the Temple being transported back to University Base.
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Check please!
Heh... and of course, the pirates add a little randomness to the whole thing
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Originally posted by GeminiRai
Is this even still a sign-up thread?
If so, or even if not, I have decided that it's the pirates life for me, may the ocean waves propell us close enough to drive our swords into the hearts of the blasted landlubbers! Or chaos guns, however the tides may turn. Nyarrrgh!!!!!
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Welcome aboard mehearty! Glad te know ye ready for eh pirates life for you!
(and you're parrot is in the mail...)
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Originally posted by Hercules
And it was a pirate spy who created the sub routine in the first place, so we know all about their weaknesses
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More power to we pirates then! Arrr!
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Originally posted by Static Universe
Pirate propoganda.
A drunken sailor who spills fungus rum on a computer and causes a glitch does not qualify as a "spy".
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Makin' a mockery of we pirates, eh? See how funny you think we are when ye walk the plank and feed the sealurks!
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Originally posted by Drogue
Just like a drunken sailor who creates a sea shanty is not a composer It's not music dammit!
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A sea shanty be some of our finest works... those shanties that doesn't survive are ones where we shot the sailor who tried to call it a song!
((TKG, Maniac, etc... how's that for a bloody, non-multiposting?))
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I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...
As always, will play after work. I wonder if I'll ever be able to turn that the other way...
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May 7, 2003, 10:44
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Har Har another crew member
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May 7, 2003, 14:29
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((TKG, Maniac, etc... how's that for a bloody, non-multiposting?))
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Err... Excellent! Continue this way and you might end up in heaven after all.
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May 7, 2003, 14:58
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BTW I was replying to the instruction to read the manual... I don't consider anything else to be "official enough" She is pretty hot though - that we can all agree on.
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May 7, 2003, 15:31
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BTW, the free drones team is now available...uhm, or is it? buster, did you want to leave your team open to others?
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May 7, 2003, 15:42
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I don't think so. He didn't really want to play with a democracy team (please correct if i'm completely wrong), more on his own, perhaps together with Triped for discussing strategy, as in a normal PBEM style. I'd suggest not to allow further recruitment in the Drone team, so we get more people for the real democracy teams.
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May 7, 2003, 15:44
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oh, so...do they really need a private forums for the 2 of them?
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