May 6, 2003, 19:57
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As it appears the mood is going towards us being accepted as a fifth faction it may be time to start the discussion about which faction.
As noted in the start given a free choice we would pick the drones - however it is not a major issue in any way so we will be perfectly hapy to accept an assigned faction be it Morgan, Believers, Gaia or whatever as long as it is not an alien faction as those play very differently.
A poll on the matter I guess could be one way of sorting it out.
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May 6, 2003, 21:30
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Originally posted by Hercules
Five teams would make the diplomatic aspect very interesting. And it is not always 3 and 2 or the same 3 and 2.
I don't think we would need a sixth team to balance out the Dip.
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Of course, a fifth human faction might possibly find natural allies among the AI, to create three strong power blocks along a 2 - 2 - 3 alignment (it can be arranged ..................... )
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May 6, 2003, 23:03
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Prince
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Five would probably be interesting... as long as there are guarentees they won't drop out (come to think of it, that goes for every team). I've had bad experiences with compensating for teams dropping out in lots of multiplayer games (ironically enough, the most troublesome has been diplomacy). Aside from that, though, go ahead! More players we can gloat over when they bow to our will.
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May 7, 2003, 04:03
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If they want the Drones, I say let them have the Drones. A bit different from our teams, with no massive bias (not so militaristic as the hive, but more planned than the UoP or CyCon).
Googlie: Does that mean you're on board? 
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May 7, 2003, 10:01
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Originally posted by Drogue
Googlie: Does that mean you're on board?
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Yes - I did reply in confirmation in one of the other threads (the map one, I believe)
Have got the basic map done, just tinkering with it, and waiting for the fifth faction to be decided before I let the AI loose.
Talking of which (but this is not another formal poll) ... do you want the AI to be:
- a pushover for whoever comes into contact with them
- an irritating opponent who is like a thorn in your side
- a nuisance that can cost you a base or two (or who can trade you a tech or two)
- strong faction(s) that will make it imperative that you conquer them or ally with them
- faction(s) with a real chance at winning (unlikely against human players, but possible depending on the AI factions and the tweaks they get)
I'd sense that #4 would give you most fun
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May 7, 2003, 10:07
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#4 sounds good! 
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May 7, 2003, 12:08
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Personally, I would say don't beef them up much. It is a relatively small map, and most of us are unexperienced. I, and many of us, have never played PBEM at all before. Thus to make it inclusive, I would say go for something not much more beefed up than normal transcend. We have voted for your AI probe tweak, but I would say not much further.
Have pity on us n00bs who want to enjoy this. Especially sicne we want many people to join.
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May 7, 2003, 22:02
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I verge more towards #3 /#4 a nuisance but with whom you can negotiate.
I think you are vieing for the potential 3 alliance arrangement. 2v2v3 which is Ok and interesting.
However as Drogue says we all want to enjoy it as well.
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May 8, 2003, 06:54
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I'd go more towards #3 myself...
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May 24, 2003, 06:54
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I thought I'd join the Pirates, since they are the smallest and need members. Minimal landmass now! 
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May 24, 2003, 17:09
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If we ever get to have 6 factions, I support greenie
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May 24, 2003, 17:15
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i'm pretty sure we can't just add another faction in the middle of a PBEM. even GooglieGod isn't that powerful
EDIT: er...i mean, yes he is. please accept this sacrifice of a university faculty member, oh glorious GooglieGod 
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May 24, 2003, 20:06
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Originally posted by Atlantian
If we ever get to have 6 factions, I support greenie
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You could try to convince your pirate brothers to go green...
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May 24, 2003, 20:21
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Originally posted by TKG
i'm pretty sure we can't just add another faction in the middle of a PBEM.
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yeah can't be done (can't even have humans take over one of the 2 AI, as far as I know)
A green Uni can be awesome too (I'm playing a game right now - as the Uni - where I started by the Nexus, so went green - it's 2250 and i have over 20 IoD's roaming around each with it's own little army of mindworms and spore launchers - i'm such a pest to the others)
GG (sacrifice accepted)
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May 24, 2003, 20:24
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Which Faculty Member did you take Googlie? (Just wanted to know who's having a new body cloned now)
On the Subject of Green, in my current game as the Gaians I started next to the Nexus too. That was OVERKILL. I also had abundant native life on... poor poor Lal had a shock when he met my 6 independant demon boils when he only had two bases 
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May 24, 2003, 21:12
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I cry into my onions when humans take on poor defenceless Ai's
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May 24, 2003, 21:25
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Deity
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Lal wasn't defenceless - he had 3 scout patrols and an Unity Rover.
(BTW, fill sink with cold water. Place large sieve in the sink. Cut onions underwater in the sink. Lift seive out of sink with the chopped onions - NO TEARS ! - you can also wear swimming goggles if you prefer)
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May 24, 2003, 23:03
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Originally posted by Jamski
Lal wasn't defenceless - he had 3 scout patrols and an Unity Rover.
(BTW, fill sink with cold water. Place large sieve in the sink. Cut onions underwater in the sink. Lift seive out of sink with the chopped onions - NO TEARS ! - you can also wear swimming goggles if you prefer)
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Jam, Please don't show pretend that you are better with the use of water than the Pirates or they'll ... cry some more ...  You really can't do that to our friend the Pirates.
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May 25, 2003, 00:47
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i sees the hive is displaying its excellent diplomatic skills again...
best be careful lest we...err...cut off your supply of xenorum!
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May 25, 2003, 11:29
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King
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You see... I actually chop the onions at the bottom of the sea where they are grown, so no tears. Salted onion, very good on fish 'n chips...
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May 27, 2003, 13:48
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Originally posted by Jamski
Which Faculty Member did you take Googlie? (Just wanted to know who's having a new body cloned now)
On the Subject of Green, in my current game as the Gaians I started next to the Nexus too. That was OVERKILL. I also had abundant native life on... poor poor Lal had a shock when he met my 6 independant demon boils when he only had two bases
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/me shudders... 
Just the thought of that many boils...
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May 27, 2003, 18:41
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King
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Bah, any FM/builder worth his/her salt has caused at least a 20-count pop of demon locusts in the late game 
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May 27, 2003, 19:06
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King
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Originally posted by Cedayon
Bah, any FM/builder worth his/her salt has caused at least a 20-count pop of demon locusts in the late game
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Only if you try to do so...otherwise, your salt is woefully substandard!
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May 27, 2003, 19:14
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King
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It would be more accurate to say "in the process of learning the FM/builder approach", then... hopefully it doesn't happen once one knows what one is doing
My particular experience involved me making wayyyyy too many minerals and not knowing how to rack up clean mins... 40 demon locust swarms... *shudder* ... the defenders killed about half of them, but then pop 60+ city dropped to pop 40+.
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July 23, 2003, 20:57
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Originally posted by Googlie
Yes - I did reply in confirmation in one of the other threads (the map one, I believe)
Have got the basic map done, just tinkering with it, and waiting for the fifth faction to be decided before I let the AI loose.
Talking of which (but this is not another formal poll) ... do you want the AI to be:
- a pushover for whoever comes into contact with them
- an irritating opponent who is like a thorn in your side
- a nuisance that can cost you a base or two (or who can trade you a tech or two)
- strong faction(s) that will make it imperative that you conquer them or ally with them
- faction(s) with a real chance at winning (unlikely against human players, but possible depending on the AI factions and the tweaks they get)
I'd sense that #4 would give you most fun
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So which kind of AI was finally choosen?
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