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Old May 29, 2003, 12:46   #241
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Me too
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CARAVANS ARE WHAT SLOW THIS GAME DOWN.....MOST OTHER THINGS ARE PRETTY QUICK !
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Old May 29, 2003, 16:00   #243
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And large attacks. While infrequent, they can slow it down. But no one seems to complain about that, unless you're on the receiving end.
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The caravans get slow when people are optomizing their cities... or ship chaining
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i thought we banned ship chaining? and yes attacks are acceptable..

as for optimizing...i was doing it real quick the othernight
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I was stating in general...not specifically for our games.
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Oppps, I forgot about that. I almost did a single turn ship chain the last game but the ships weren't in the right position. MUST REMEMBER NEXT TIME> Senior moment.
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sure sure...don't think just b/c i came clean with the warrior to musket upgrade i am going to let this slide
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sure sure...don't think just b/c i came clean with the warrior to musket upgrade i am going to let this slide
Just how many times did you use this blatant abuse?
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sure sure...don't think just b/c i came clean with the warrior to musket upgrade i am going to let this slide

Hmmm, At least I just thought about doing it instead of really doing it. Too bad you couldn't say the same.
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nah i had a junior moment
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Old May 29, 2003, 23:53   #252
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What really pisses me off is when somebody breaks one of the agreed upon rules... like building Great Wall
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or when players rehome caravans........
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Yep... I love when they say... I didn't know you couldn't do that
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The thing i hate the most is those that use a second computer and claim to be the greatest in the world....

i am sorry, but your beelining to my capital every game you get a farking unit just doesnt' wash when it happens game in game out
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That's why I like to save the turns... somethings just don't look "natural". I can understand following rivers or hut patterns... but bee lining to the cap gets old quick.
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When you get a whale at start but no shielded grassland to build your cap on.

Damn 7-shield city's
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In 2x production games, give me a forest and that whale... or a river grassland shield
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I prefer the river grassland for that extra science (and food). The forest and whale only give you three beakers. But I'll settle in a pinch.
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it makes an even better second city...
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Yes, second city, EXXXXXXXXcelent.
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whale or silk, i like whales better cuz once they are being used, so long as you don't remove them, they can't be stolen and the extra food always helps too
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Yeah, but I remember back in civI you could steal the sea based specials by putting a ship on them. Think of some of the sea battles that would cause.
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I've often wondered why it was changed..........seems inconsistent with the way land specials can be 'borrowed'.
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In 2x production games, give me a forest and that whale... or a river grassland shield
My points is that once it turns size 2 you can turn out setts every 5 turns when build on a shielded grass and working both the whale and forrest.
When build on a normal grass this turns to 7 turns and you have to keep moving the worker in order to not waste shields.

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5 in 2x

I dont give a rats ass about rivers in 2x production, usualy you end up placing city's where you dont want them in order to maintain a good infrastructure, a rivermouth with the shielded grass+ whale or forrest and fih are nice though.
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I dont give a rats ass about rivers in 2x production, usualy you end up placing city's where you dont want them in order to maintain a good infrastructure, a rivermouth with the shielded grass+ whale or forrest and fih are nice though.
A forest/whale combo is only three in 'despotism' in 2x prod. And you're right, in 2x production rivers are no where near as important. While not critical, the extra defense, trade and mobility are a "nice" to have, but the lack of them doesn't stop me from settling.

And yes, on our tiny rocks, river forests rock. Of course most of my non forested river squares are forests before the sessions are done.
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I think we are talking about different things here, a whale in despo gives you 5 trade of witch 3 are sience.
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