May 29, 2003, 12:46
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Me too
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May 29, 2003, 12:54
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CARAVANS ARE WHAT SLOW THIS GAME DOWN.....MOST OTHER THINGS ARE PRETTY QUICK !
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May 29, 2003, 16:00
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And large attacks. While infrequent, they can slow it down. But no one seems to complain about that, unless you're on the receiving end.
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May 29, 2003, 16:12
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The caravans get slow when people are optomizing their cities... or ship chaining
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May 29, 2003, 16:20
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i thought we banned ship chaining? and yes attacks are acceptable..
as for optimizing...i was doing it real quick the othernight
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May 29, 2003, 16:24
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I was stating in general...not specifically for our games.
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May 29, 2003, 17:46
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Oppps, I forgot about that. I almost did a single turn ship chain the last game but the ships weren't in the right position. MUST REMEMBER NEXT TIME> Senior moment.
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May 29, 2003, 17:58
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sure sure...don't think just b/c i came clean with the warrior to musket upgrade i am going to let this slide
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May 29, 2003, 18:05
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sure sure...don't think just b/c i came clean with the warrior to musket upgrade i am going to let this slide
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Just how many times did you use this blatant abuse?
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May 29, 2003, 18:08
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sure sure...don't think just b/c i came clean with the warrior to musket upgrade i am going to let this slide
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Hmmm, At least I just thought about doing it instead of really doing it. Too bad you couldn't say the same.
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May 29, 2003, 18:18
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nah i had a junior moment
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May 29, 2003, 23:53
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What really pisses me off is when somebody breaks one of the agreed upon rules... like building Great Wall
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May 30, 2003, 01:17
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or when players rehome caravans........
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May 30, 2003, 01:34
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Yep... I love when they say... I didn't know you couldn't do that
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May 30, 2003, 01:37
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The thing i hate the most is those that use a second computer and claim to be the greatest in the world....
i am sorry, but your beelining to my capital every game you get a farking unit just doesnt' wash when it happens game in game out
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May 30, 2003, 02:03
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That's why I like to save the turns... somethings just don't look "natural". I can understand following rivers or hut patterns... but bee lining to the cap gets old quick.
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May 30, 2003, 02:59
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When you get a whale at start but no shielded grassland to build your cap on.
Damn 7-shield city's
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May 30, 2003, 03:04
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In 2x production games, give me a forest and that whale... or a river grassland shield
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May 30, 2003, 08:21
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I prefer the river grassland for that extra science (and food). The forest and whale only give you three beakers. But I'll settle in a pinch.
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May 30, 2003, 11:37
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it makes an even better second city...
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May 30, 2003, 11:50
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Yes, second city, EXXXXXXXXcelent.
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May 30, 2003, 11:53
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whale or silk, i like whales better cuz once they are being used, so long as you don't remove them, they can't be stolen and the extra food always helps too
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May 30, 2003, 12:12
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Yeah, but I remember back in civI you could steal the sea based specials by putting a ship on them. Think of some of the sea battles that would cause.
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May 30, 2003, 12:23
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I've often wondered why it was changed..........seems inconsistent with the way land specials can be 'borrowed'.
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May 30, 2003, 12:32
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yeah...naval battles over specials would be a great idea
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May 30, 2003, 12:56
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In 2x production games, give me a forest and that whale... or a river grassland shield
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My points is that once it turns size 2 you can turn out setts every 5 turns when build on a shielded grass and working both the whale and forrest.
When build on a normal grass this turns to 7 turns and you have to keep moving the worker in order to not waste shields.
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The forest and whale only give you three beakers.
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I dont give a rats ass about rivers in 2x production, usualy you end up placing city's where you dont want them in order to maintain a good infrastructure, a rivermouth with the shielded grass+ whale or forrest and fih are nice though.
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May 30, 2003, 13:04
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river forest is great to build on
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May 30, 2003, 13:36
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5 in 2x
I dont give a rats ass about rivers in 2x production, usualy you end up placing city's where you dont want them in order to maintain a good infrastructure, a rivermouth with the shielded grass+ whale or forrest and fih are nice though.
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A forest/whale combo is only three in 'despotism' in 2x prod. And you're right, in 2x production rivers are no where near as important. While not critical, the extra defense, trade and mobility are a "nice" to have, but the lack of them doesn't stop me from settling.
And yes, on our tiny rocks, river forests rock. Of course most of my non forested river squares are forests before the sessions are done.
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May 30, 2003, 13:45
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I think we are talking about different things here, a whale in despo gives you 5 trade of witch 3 are sience.
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May 30, 2003, 13:56
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yes i think your talking different languages too
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