May 6, 2003, 03:52
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RIAA working on virus?
I heard from somewhere there planning to release a worm on FTS like Grokster, KaZaa, DC++ (etc) embedded with some of there mp3 music files that destroys the users hard drives if they dont confess by calling a number. Is this true? Isnt it illegal?
Cuz it would figure. I just got into the whole E-donkey, mIRC, File swapping burn music crap.
Always was into Gamez tho (netshark)
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May 6, 2003, 03:54
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yes, you now have this virus now on your computer. I suggest calling now and confessing
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May 6, 2003, 03:55
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May 6, 2003, 04:00
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If they are, and they do, it's a federal crime.
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May 6, 2003, 06:16
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Didnīt the RIAA approach an Californian Senator just for the purpose of making such things legal for them?
(Luckily they failed AFAIK)
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May 6, 2003, 07:40
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A virus embedded inside an MP3? I don't think it's possible.
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May 6, 2003, 07:48
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I'd become a suicide bomber and blow myself up in their headquarters if they destroy my hard drive.
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May 6, 2003, 07:55
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why sava, surely what you have on your hard drive isnt THAT important
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May 6, 2003, 08:03
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Originally posted by MRT144
why sava, surely what you have on your hard drive isnt THAT important
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But on the other hand maybe it is just as relevant to ask how important Sava's life is in comparison.
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May 6, 2003, 08:56
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May 6, 2003, 09:05
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Sava's continued existence provides a much needed ego boost for posters of marginal inteligence.
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May 6, 2003, 11:38
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A virus embedded inside an MP3? I don't think it's possible.
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You are right. Although it is theoretically possible that one (or more) of the MP3 players have a sort of buffer overrun vulnerability which could be exploited to take control of the target computer.
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May 6, 2003, 11:49
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maybe sava has finally found an issue he feels strongly enough to act upon, maybe his giving up his life to save your hard drive and everyone else's hard drive will be a service to humanity and will better the world
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May 6, 2003, 11:54
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Although it is theoretically possible that one (or more) of the MP3 players have a sort of buffer overrun vulnerability which could be exploited to take control of the target computer.
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How would that work?
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May 6, 2003, 11:55
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Just think of how great this would be! If the RIAA did these they would be sued to death for the damage they caused to users data. Isn't that poetic? The RIAA would be killed by the very users they are seeking to repress.
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May 6, 2003, 12:03
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Originally posted by Azazel
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Although it is theoretically possible that one (or more) of the MP3 players have a sort of buffer overrun vulnerability which could be exploited to take control of the target computer.
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How would that work?
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When a buffer overruns due to poor programming, the data overwrites part of the program. On a computer, data is indistinguishable from instructions. So if the malicious data is just the right length with the right data, you could get the data start to execute.
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May 6, 2003, 12:10
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I wasn't serious BTW...
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May 6, 2003, 12:14
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Although it is now "dead," there was once a proposal, advance primarily by Microsoft, to amend the UCC to allow for "self help" for license violations. Essentially this meant that the software company could remotely turn your software off if there was a dispute or non payment.
This caused so much controversy that it was dropped from the proposal.
But the copyright content providers are thinking along these lines. I wouldn't be surprised if the RIAA did something to render players inoperative if they played pirated music. Something like that happened to me when I upgraded to XP. I lost all my licenses on Windows Media Player and further, Windows Media Player would play nothing. Neither would any other player on my machine. I had to call Microsoft for a fix.
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May 6, 2003, 13:03
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Just let them try it! Here in Norway, it's not illegal to download stuff, only to share... and if RIAA are allowed to break in to my computer not only to check what I have here, but also do damage, that means I can break in to my neighbour's kitchen and if I find a knife, I can destroy his kitchen because I suspect he is going to do something illegal with that knife.
And what if those MP3's are copies of a CD you have...? I rip all my good CD's to MP3's so I don't have to change CD every time I want to hear music! And I can make my own playlists easily...
I don't know if this RIAA's crime will be legalized in the US, but here in Europe it will not be acceptable...
BTW, the future versions of Windows (already started a bit in XP) and Intel's future CPU's (Prescott and later) will support a Project from Microsoft called "Palladium". This project they say is to keep your system protected, but it makes it possible to control your computer and do excactly what RIAA is trying to do now... If RIAA are not stopped, future "1984"-projects like this will be a lot more easy to implement...
This is not a question of having MP3's you might never have bought anyway, but a question of personal freedom...
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May 6, 2003, 13:18
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Hot New Metallica Song.mp3.exe.vbs
<_< >_> <_< >_>
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May 6, 2003, 13:19
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Originally posted by Sava
I wasn't serious BTW...
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Too late; the FBI has been notified.
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May 6, 2003, 14:00
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Originally posted by ixnay
Hot New Metallica Song.mp3.exe.vbs
<_< >_> <_< >_>
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May 6, 2003, 14:07
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Originally posted by MoonWolf
BTW, the future versions of Windows (already started a bit in XP) and Intel's future CPU's (Prescott and later) will support a Project from Microsoft called "Palladium". This project they say is to keep your system protected, but it makes it possible to control your computer and do excactly what RIAA is trying to do now... If RIAA are not stopped, future "1984"-projects like this will be a lot more easy to implement...
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That's DRM (digital rights management). AFAIK it's with a combination of software (OS and/or players) with hardware (motherboard, drives, etc.). The CPU seems to play no part in it although Intel itself does push DRM itself.
Of course, you can always count on mobo vendors to make boards without the damn DRM chipsets, and hackers to crack Windows etc. to remove/bypass the DRM bit.
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May 6, 2003, 14:24
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i hope the RIAA does this. i really do.
why? because if they did, they'd be committing suicide.
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May 6, 2003, 15:57
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Sava's continued existence provides a much needed ego boost for posters of marginal inteligence.
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So true. I'd might've blown myself up by now if I didn't have Sava around to make my dumb ass look good.
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May 7, 2003, 00:54
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Oh yes and i didnt of couse mean virus imbedded in Mp3. I meant a Virus disguised as Mp3. Big difference
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May 7, 2003, 02:03
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i still want the RIAA to do this. their online presence would never survive the repercussions.
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May 7, 2003, 02:23
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Sava's continued existence provides a much needed ego boost for posters of marginal inteligence.
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Thats a classic.
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May 7, 2003, 02:41
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check this out. the piraters are hurting the industry bad. We'll all be sorry when no good games, music, or movies come out because of lack of money.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...0.html?CNN=yes
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May 7, 2003, 03:21
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Oh no! People aren't buying the crap that the music industry shoves down our throats! WHAT A TRAGEDY!
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