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Old May 7, 2003, 00:13   #31
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Abraham Lincoln for freeing the slaves.
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Old May 7, 2003, 00:14   #32
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Dalai Lama. It's not everyone who can be kicked out of his own country, have most of his friends and supporters murdered, the entire culture he's a representative of almost destroyed, and still be a cheerful guy who doesn't hold any enmity towards those who have harmed him and who specifically goes around discouraging violence against them. Not to mention he just goes around the world preaching compassion to anyone who will listen as part of his job.
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Old May 7, 2003, 00:21   #33
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Big hitter, the Lama.

I would agree with Orange about compassion being relative to your capability. Kind words can be more compassionate than millions of dollars.

Mohandas K Gandi, Jesus of Nazareth, Mother Teresa, the Dalai Lama, and Dr Strangelove. Hard to pick just one, really.
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To continue my thoughts from the Most Evil Person(tm) thread, the person who decides to cancel Survivor. He or she may not exist yet, however.
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Dr. Norman Bethune

Worked for years in the war zones of the world (China 20s, Spain 30s, WWII) where he perfected blood transfusion and many other medical procedures.
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For a rich man to give a dollar is not as compassionate as it is for a poor man to give a quarter.
Very true.

Sure Gates is giving some of his wealth to charity, but it won't make a difference to his lifestyle. He could give away 90% of his wealth and he could still live high on the hog.

But for an average income earner, a $1,000 donation means a lot and will make a big difference to their lifestyle.
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St. Ignatius of Loyola found the Society of Jesus, better known as the Jesuits.

He also may have done other things.
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A few that I can think of right now: Mother Teresa, Oscar Schindler, Ghandi, the current Dalai Lama.
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It's not everyone who can be kicked out of his own country, have most of his friends and supporters murdered, the entire culture he's a representative of almost destroyed
Now where did this crap come from?
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St. Ignatius of Loyola found the Society of Jesus, better known as the Jesuits.

He also may have done other things.
The Jesuits? You mean the brains behind the Spanish Inquisition? Nice going, GePap; you may have found the one saint who doesn't qualify!
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He was talking about a specific person.

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He was talking about a specific person.

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Oh, I know; it's just that, a the founder of a society that could imagine that the Inquisition was a good idea, St. Iggy surely loses points.

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What has the Dalia Llama done to be the most compassioante person ever. Mother Terressa was a religious bigot who insited on conversion before she helped people.

The founder of the JESUITS right ok.

Jesus appears to have been a sound guy, and Ghandi did alot of good stuff. But the atual answer is almost certainly someone we have never heard of
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It's Bill Gates??? Damn, I was going to say David Duchovny! I don't know why.

I'd say Steve Jobs and the Woz are very compassionate for giving us and devloping an alternate OS to use so we aren't stuck with windows. Same goes for Linus Torvalds.
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OK: Most 'compassionate' could be anyone. My crazed bus driver might be the 'most compassionate'.

It's what people actually DO to reduce suffering.

But at the same time these individuals have a phil framework of individualism and rights and inspiration.

Tolstoy dedicated his life to the Russian people, and provided an example of service and non-violence.

Bentham and Mill championed the rights of the individual and the downtrodden.

Many scientists have created techniques, cures, or processes that have helped lessen the suffering of millions.

I chose Bethune over, say, Pasteur or the polio dude because Bethune was actually out there, side by side with the young soldiers of many different nations, suffering with them. His techniques were worked out on the battlefield, and he took no personal profit from them (with the exception of the device he patented for dealing with punctured, collapsed lungs). And they were highly effective: there is a marked difference between armies with blood transfusion and without, and that difference is much less casualties from treatable wounds. Bethune's work meant that men no longer (necessarily) had to stand by and watch friends die from blood loss.

I can't think of any relgious figure who I would consider 'most compassionate' in the sense of actually doing anything.
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Mother Teresa, I don't think I have explain why .
This guy might ask you to explain:

http://www.secularhumanism.org/libra...hens_16_4.html

Jesus? Well, if he existed, I don't think I could call him the most compassionate. The Canaanite woman wasn't treated all that compassionately, neither were the sheep he sent to their deaths in the lake. And then there's that whole condemning folks to hell who don't believe in him thing...

I think Jimmy Carter was one of the most compassionate people to ever lead a country, although he was rather dismal at doing so. I think Lincoln was pretty compassionate too, though he was by no means perfect either.

I'll just say Bartholomew de las Casas and leave it at that.
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"I wonder if people can guess who I'll say."
It's Bill Gates??? Damn, I was going to say David Duchovny! I don't know why.

I'd say Steve Jobs and the Woz are very compassionate for giving us and devloping an alternate OS to use so we aren't stuck with windows. Same goes for Linus Torvalds.
**** jobs. he ran the mac clones out of business. thats not compassionate at all.
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