May 7, 2003, 21:39
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Prince
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Turnchat 3 will begin soon.
Alright, just got back from school.
That is Undernet on IRC.
I am personally connected at: paris.fr.eu.undernet.org (Port: 6666)
We are in #civ3dem. I'll begin an 7pm my time!
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The solution to 1984 is 1776! | Here's to hoping that GoW's military isn't being run by MasterZen: Hehe! | DaveRocks! or something. ;)
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May 7, 2003, 22:23
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Turn 1
The spears threatening our northern territory retreated. A new enemy city was founded near the cow to the west (a bit north of the cow). and that was about it.
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Try peace first. If that does not work, then killing them is often a good solution. :evil:
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May 7, 2003, 22:44
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Ottomans attacked with 2 more warriors, and lost. Our second settler is moving north to found the Green city. 5 turns done, all is going well.
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Try peace first. If that does not work, then killing them is often a good solution. :evil:
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May 7, 2003, 23:03
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Prince
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Posting save
7 turns into the turn chat and we are still alive. Second city founded.
Save attached
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(04/29/2004) [Trip] we will see who is best in the next round ; [Trip] that is why I left this team ; [Trip] I don't need the rest of you to win |
The solution to 1984 is 1776! | Here's to hoping that GoW's military isn't being run by MasterZen: Hehe! | DaveRocks! or something. ;)
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May 7, 2003, 23:04
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Prince
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Asked the Ottomans what they would like for peace. . .
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(04/29/2004) [Trip] we will see who is best in the next round ; [Trip] that is why I left this team ; [Trip] I don't need the rest of you to win |
The solution to 1984 is 1776! | Here's to hoping that GoW's military isn't being run by MasterZen: Hehe! | DaveRocks! or something. ;)
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May 7, 2003, 23:28
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Prince
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Here is the save!
REPORTING:
Turnchat #3
Turn 1 2900BC
Production changed in Asgard to Settler
Scout Thor N, W
Scout Odin W, NW
2 Ottoman Workers and Veteran Spearman moved North of Asgard
Reg Worker Moved S of Asgard
Reg Spear Fortified in Asgard
Turn 2 2850BC
Worker S of Asgard building road
2 Slave Workers N of Asgard building road
Scout Thor moves W, W
Scout Odin moves W, NW
Vet Spearman fortified on workers N or Asgard
Turn 3 2800BC
Thor moves W, W
Odin moves NW, W
Turn 4 2750BC
Thor moves NE, NE
Odin moves W onto mountain.
Turn 5 2710BC
Roads completed both N and S of Asgard
2 Ottoman Warriors and 2 Ottoman Spearman W of Asgard.
Odin moves S, S
Thor moves N, E, discovers GOODIE HUT towards the North! 
All workers mine tiles. But I ended up cancelling the southern worker. DOH. So a wasted turn on him. :-/
Turn 6 2670BC
Settler completed! Settler Moves N, N
Thor moves NE, N
Veteran Spearman N of Asgard moves N to cover settler
Odin moves W into Forest
Our worker moves N, N, NE
Production changed in Asgard to barracks
Ottomans still won't talk to us...
Turn 7 2630BC
Settler founds "The Second City" (Only a temporary name of course 
Thor moves NW and pops... nothing. Moves NW again
Odin moves S, SW
Worker SE of Second City builds road.
Turn 8 2590BC
Odin moves W, S
Thor moves NE, N
Turn 9 2550BC
Due to objections over my sense of humor, The Second City has been renamed to Trondheim
Odin SW, S
Thor N, E
Turn 10 2510BC
2 Ottoman Archers appear to the NW of Trondheim.
Thor N, E
Worker SE of Thronheim mines
Odin moves SW, S
Spearman moves from Asgard to Trondheim.
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Ottomans are about to enter our borders with 2 archers. Right now they will settle for Peace if we pay them 100 Gold. We currently have 110 Gold and 6GPT!
Discuss
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(04/29/2004) [Trip] we will see who is best in the next round ; [Trip] that is why I left this team ; [Trip] I don't need the rest of you to win |
The solution to 1984 is 1776! | Here's to hoping that GoW's military isn't being run by MasterZen: Hehe! | DaveRocks! or something. ;)
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May 7, 2003, 23:30
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Emperor
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Congrats, WB! Great job, folks!
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May 7, 2003, 23:58
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King
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And we live to see another turnchat!
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May 8, 2003, 00:01
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King
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Another hut of nothing!?!
I sense an AI conspiracy!
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May 8, 2003, 00:04
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Deity
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Whew!  Good to see that my bad luck hasn't tainted the Vice President! I'm glad that you'll be doing the Wednesday chats, WB - you can repair the damage done from awful luck during my Saturday chats!  I look forward to looking at the save again...
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May 8, 2003, 00:32
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King
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Good turn chat; sorry I missed it.
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May 8, 2003, 00:37
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Prince
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I completely forgot when the time came. Good thing too because I was doing homework.
Excellent progress. Could we get some math on what our chances our of surviving this assault? I wouldn't give them the money unless they had a pretty good chance of making it through our walls.
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May 8, 2003, 07:22
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Deity
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Yes - as Aro has said - great job WB, Uber, and GK.
Now peace for 100 gold, or not?
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Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.
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May 8, 2003, 09:39
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Emperor
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Sorry Epi, we don't have walls in Trondheim. We were unable to procure Masonry during the chat so we can't build them yet. Right now our only bonus is that they have to cross a river to get to us. Here is some math:
(Spear) 2
(Fort) .50
(River).50
Total = 3
Makes me think, are they Vet Archers?
Also, if we move both spear into Trondheim, what is stoping the AI from walking right up to Trond and the crossing the river in a SE direction landing the stack smack in the middle (and on our road) of our cities?
This will be a difficult situation to deal with...
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May 8, 2003, 10:57
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Prince
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Heh I didn't mean walls as in city walls (although that would make this entire conversation moot as they would't have a chance). Without looking at math directly, it seems to me they wont have a very good chance. Would the cost be more or less next turn?
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May 8, 2003, 11:22
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Is there a rule on Deity that humans poping huts always results in nothing?
On the proposed peace deal:
A. What's the probability of losing a city to those 2 Archers?
B. How much would it cost to get the Celts to declare war on the Otts?
C. I don't trust the AI not to take our money but declare war before 20 turns are up in the case of the Otts or take our money to declare war, but declare peace again before 20 turns are up in case of the Celts, so it's probably in our best interest to pay in GPT instead.
This will retain our cash for upgrading units; with reduced pressure from the Otts, our economy should grow.
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May 9, 2003, 04:29
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hi ,
we could take the risk , ..... in some games ( did a test run ) its possibly to beat those archers , ....
its either that or show them we are weak and be faced with a couple of small cities while they build up for a big final blow , .....
have a nice day
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May 9, 2003, 09:05
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Panag, you're not supposed to do test runs, unless you set them up in a seperate game in the editor. Have a nice day too
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May 9, 2003, 09:19
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OK. We either pay the 100 and get peace now, or we fend off the archers and risk teh AI bribing another civ to join in. I vote for peace as that will allow us to do our expansion and get our armies into shape.
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Try peace first. If that does not work, then killing them is often a good solution. :evil:
As long as I could figure a way to hump myself, I would be OK with that
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May 9, 2003, 09:21
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Can someone direct me to the save report, please? I can't exactly do my job if I don't have the save.
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May 9, 2003, 14:10
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Originally posted by Panzer32
Panag, you're not supposed to do test runs, unless you set them up in a seperate game in the editor. Have a nice day too
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hi ,
no kidding , .....
actually i have done that a long time ago , before the game , .....
and yes they always get set up in a special test scen (!)
its just to study the units and how the AI uses them , ....
have a nice day
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May 9, 2003, 16:01
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Prince
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Make peace ASAP, using GPT if possible. Fighting a war on someones elses terms is usually bad, with this being no exception.
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May 9, 2003, 16:51
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GT - the save is in this post, along with the report. WB didn't do a seperate thread. THe 2510 BC save is the latest and current save.
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Try peace first. If that does not work, then killing them is often a good solution. :evil:
As long as I could figure a way to hump myself, I would be OK with that
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May 9, 2003, 17:14
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Is there a risk of other civs getting drawn in? I don't think you can make Military Alliances before Writing; granted, an AI could discover that soon, but science is one of the few things the deity AI doesn't get a bonus to.
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May 9, 2003, 18:04
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Kloreep, correct. But they do trade techs with eachother like the dickens, and they do it often enough, and they gauge us so much, that they could. Also, just because the ottomans don't have the tech, doesn't mean that another civ that does and has an embassey with them will not get drawn in.
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Try peace first. If that does not work, then killing them is often a good solution. :evil:
As long as I could figure a way to hump myself, I would be OK with that
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May 9, 2003, 21:51
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GT - the save is in this post, along with the report. WB didn't do a seperate thread. THe 2510 BC save is the latest and current save.
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Ah, thanks. Sorry, didn't notice it for some reason
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May 10, 2003, 13:18
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Writing is a low priority AI tech.
But with 23 AIs, some AI is bound to be reseraching it.
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