JAC Promisance - Page 2

Lazerus · May 9, 2003, 21:00

Sent you some cash Barley (bout 400-500mill i think) tell me how you do since i should be on in the afternoon

Swissy · May 9, 2003, 21:02

I took most of #30 cash, and threw a ton of Hydro's against him. He'll have serious cash flow probs when he returns. Last look at his stats:

Turns 184 (max 500)
Turns Stored 36 (max 300)
Rank #10
Civilians 98,112
Land Acres 2,574
Money $1,467,866
Nutrients 46,473,558
Energy 541,331
Networth $7,565,544
Era Present
Race Goblin
Health 69%
Tax Rate 40%
Infantry 1,997,937
Tanks 239,790
Jets 104,452
Battleships 267,948
Telepaths 10,475

mrmitchell · May 9, 2003, 21:18

Actually now that I have nothing left to do at all today...

I'm too efficient

I can continue whooping this 47 guy's pale ass around. Hmm, lemme see...

Barley
I'm only selling my Grain! (I have about 15million stored

) Besides it works good for cashflow when I sell my Grain.

So if I give you $100mil you could turn it into $150mil? Thanks, if I need you, pal...

However I'm not exactly one to take charity

Anyways, with the 100 turns I now have, I'm going to buy my army back up and try kicking 47's ass again.

EDIT: Barley, since I've had too many attacks on 47 so far, I want to retain a little bit of my morals (only attack if I have a good reason!

), and the big #4 drive won't be starting till later...I'll send you some.

It might not be a lot to work with, but I'm not sending them to you for interest or anything, I'm sending them to you because you're in my clan

mrmitchell · May 9, 2003, 21:50

Should I be attacking LowerPoVille? (They are our clan enemy after all

)

germanos · May 10, 2003, 04:57

#6, I need recon. Send you an in game message as well.

germanos · May 10, 2003, 05:01

StormWarrior, i have 200 mill to burn now. Whats the stats for 44? I want to rip lots of land from him.

Barley · May 10, 2003, 05:23

I had a good go at #4, battered him down (he is week for bombardment attacks), didnt do it as well as I wanted as #44 kept attacking me.

Couldnt get a spy report on him, but guess to break his back we need to embezzle him to get his money, ive kept trying but cant get through.

germanos · May 10, 2003, 05:28

How much Catapults did you had to use on #4?

Barley · May 10, 2003, 05:29

I still cant get through with recon, I have no turns left and little money (plus unable to send any more aid for an hour). I think he is probably weak on Bombardment and Aerial attacks (I was getting through with 900,000 bombardment units - but bear in mind im future advance so my bombardment units had an attack strength of 5). #7 got through with aerial units before me but I dont know how many he used.

germanos · May 10, 2003, 07:43

I gave #8 and #10 a good blow.

I couldn't spy on #8, but all of his forces seem to be below 400k

Report on #10:
Dwarf
260 turns
0 turns stored
35 mill cash
3,7 mill Grain
1 mill Mana
NW 5,3M
Health 95%

300k Footsoldiers
212k Catapults
350k Zeppelins
320k Galleons
55k Wizzards

mrmitchell · May 10, 2003, 08:29

#10, #44, #18 being a real pain in the ass right now....

Thanks for the cash

EDIT: Actually if 10 is that weak, I can take care of him

mrmitchell · May 10, 2003, 08:36

w00t! I am now in the Present Age.

Any different strategies I should be concerned of since I'm now in the Present?

mrmitchell · May 10, 2003, 08:55

Going to attack Nidaros (30) some. He's in TF and I need to recover from the 18, 44, 10 bastards' attacks

germanos · May 10, 2003, 09:04

MrMitchell:

In present age your catapults or whatever they are called there are more powerfull.

And if the Networth of 10 is still as posted above, then yes, he still is that weak

mrmitchell · May 10, 2003, 09:16

Thanks

Whittling down #30 right now....
Will go after #10 too

mrmitchell · May 10, 2003, 09:29

Who has lots of turns right now? I've got $100million and 1 turn

You don't have to return it with any interest, just return it.

germanos · May 10, 2003, 09:47

Thanks very much, but I have also just 1 turn remaining..

jdd2007 · May 10, 2003, 11:34

i have 500 turns ready right now. im gonna build up my country a little and try to hit TF as much as possible.

Jonny · May 10, 2003, 12:10

I was finally able to join the Warrior Clan.

Anyone have some suggestions for vulnerable targets?

Barley · May 10, 2003, 12:39

Think the networth for Purple People Eater #4 is wrong, ive got through with hardly any troops. If you have even 300,000 of one type or 1,000,000 units for standard attack it might be worth a try. The return wont be that great but there are few strong targets left.

Without wishing to pre-judge the situation I think #4 is nearly finished, maybe we look for new enemies or just land grab from the weaker guys? - Any ideas?

jdd2007 · May 10, 2003, 12:53

Rabid Lawn Gnomes Revenge (#7) cant be allowed to become too powerful

but he is an ally so how about HIT ME FOO! (#46) ?

germanos · May 10, 2003, 12:56

#4 is completely defenseless against Stone bombardments!

germanos · May 10, 2003, 13:00

Hit me Foo used to neglect his Wizzards, but he seems to have found a cure

#4 is also without an airforce. His networth might be his money or his structures? I don't know how it's calculated.

Lazerus · May 10, 2003, 13:24

#46 and #38 are practically defenesless

I HATE RESETS (#38)
Turns 8 (max 500)
Turns Stored 44 (max 300)
Rank #7
Peasants 404,721
Land Acres 12,718
Money $3,466,856
Grains 196,404,472
Mana 16,996
Networth $14,325,189
Era Past
Race Human
Health 100%
Tax Rate 10%
Footmen 100,977
Catapults 108,436
Zeppelins 100,356
Galleons 100,514
Wizards 10,563

HIT ME FOO! (#46)
Turns 204 (max 500)
Turns Stored 0 (max 300)
Rank #3
Peasants 54,808
Land Acres 15,060
Money $541,317,867
Grains 497,049,211
Mana 792,386
Networth $31,757,002
Era Past
Race Orc
Health 85%
Tax Rate 40%
Footmen 94,415
Catapults 0
Zeppelins 0
Galleons 94
Wizards 154,930

Don't know how they're getting so much food, we might have to cast lotsa storms on them to remove the stockpiles.
#30 took some land offa me again, took bout 2/3 back and built up some more if some1 could continue hitting him since hes protected from me now.

Lazerus · May 10, 2003, 13:33

At Sat, 10 May 2003 13:36:34 -0500, a messenger from I HATE RESETS (#38) brought this to you...
You attack me then you want me to tell you the secret to gather food. I dont think so!

--- Original Message ---
How do you gather so much food ?

I suppose it was too much to hope for

damn 500mill food solf for £6 on the black market is 3bill but if he sold it all on the public market for £14 thats 7bill cash hes got stored !!!

I might have to try this, what it seems they've done.
All buildings are farms and all food consuming objects, ie military+people are removed.

I'm guess each acre produces roughly 2 food and each farm gives 50 (if some people could post their farms+land value aswell as total food income we could work this out properly).

Anyways 14k land would then produce 728k food per tick. 500 turns of farming would give a grand total of 455mill food, which if sold on the black market is roughly 3bill.
Once this is done you could buy your military
2mill infantry - 184mill
1.5mill tanks - 276mill
1.5mill jets - 552mill
1mill battleships - 552mill
Total - 1.564bill cash

as you can see quite an impressive military could be bought with just 500 turns and only 14k acres being worked .....
Then again I think 14k markets would give better results with cashing, but that can be embezzled, food can only be destroyed.

Barley · May 10, 2003, 14:55

Here I my stats if it helps you work it out

Turns Used: 3,722
Money: $364,509,673
Rank: #4 of
Networth: $31,272,391
Population: 613,520
Race: Dark Elf
Era: Future
Agriculture
Est. Production: 369,350
Est. Consumption: 438,414
Net: -69,064
Relations
Member of Clan: Warrior
Allies:
War: S.P.Y,TF

Offensive Actions: 436 (85%)
Defenses: 323 (12%)
Kills: 0

Land Division
E-Commerce Sites: 31,093
Giliads: 11,897
Replicators: 0
Storage Bays: 235
Supercomputers: 12,006
Power Plants: 5,239
Laser Turrets: 500
Unused Land: 0
Finances
Est. Income: $14,604,579
Est. Expenses: $12,928,987
Net: +$1,675,592
Loan Payment: $0
Per Cap income: $38

Savings Balance: $211,591,809 (2.546%)
Loan Balance: $0 (6.454%)
Military
Cyborgs: 2,564,762
Juggernauts: 2,016,656
Hovercrafts: 1,785,848
Dreadnoughts: 1,517,203
Master AIs: 770,608

Offensive Points: 38,741,248
Defensive Points: 26,914,249

I took 1 Cash & 1 Farm turn here are the results (my tax is 40%)

CASH TURN

Economic Status
Income: $18,255,724
Expenses: $13,121,639
War Tax: $0
Loan Pay: $0
Net: +$5,134,085
Agricultural Status
Produced: 369,350
Consumed: 438,414
Net: -69,064
Population & Military Status
Drones: +127
Master AIs: +1,801
Bandwidth: +16,613
Cyborgs: 0
Juggernauts: 0
Hovercrafts: 0
Dreadnoughts: 0

FARM TURN

Economic Status
Income: $14,669,539
Expenses: $13,122,090
War Tax: $0
Loan Pay: $0
Net: +$1,547,449
Agricultural Status
Produced: 461,688
Consumed: 438,865
Net: +22,823
Population & Military Status
Drones: +124
Master AIs: +1,801
Bandwidth: +16,663
Cyborgs: 0
Juggernauts: 0
Hovercrafts: 0
Dreadnoughts: 0

germanos · May 10, 2003, 15:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Lazerus

as you can see quite an impressive military could be bought with just 500 turns and only 14k acres being worked .....
Then again I think 14k markets would give better results with cashing, but that can be embezzled, food can only be destroyed.

This only works if their is sufficient demand for your food.
In the previous game I managed to sell only 2 mill food or so. After the rest had been sitting waiting to be sold, I took it back.

I'm afraid stocking up on food is not a big help.

Barley · May 10, 2003, 15:08

We need to get rid of all these guys land, down to at least less than 2000. Then theyve got nothing to farm and no money to buy units. When they get online and start trying to attack we need to counter attack as soon as theyve bought troops.

Barley · May 10, 2003, 15:16

Laz, just had the calculator out. I dont see their strategy is anything special, with 10,000 markets & very minimal troops, your income would be approx $6mil from cash turns, this would also generate $3bil in 500 turns.

We just need to keep an eye on all players (especially #4 #46 & #38) knock them down every time they start to get up - keep their land as low as possible.

germanos · May 10, 2003, 15:32

Stats of #18, who has been hitting our clan franticly:

Turns 0 (max 500)
Turns Stored 88 (max 300)
Rank #15
Drones 127,846
Land Acres 9,769
Money $33,325,840
Batteries 59,834,841
Bandwidth 823,411
Networth $6,262,381
Era Future
Race Dark Elf
Health 57%
Tax Rate 40%
Cyborgs 113,341
Juggernauts 465,100
Hovercrafts 36,656
Dreadnoughts 76,187
Master AIs 67,519