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Stupid patriotic Americans
This country is way to patriotic. First off, I'm not over patriotic. You'd probably call me crazy for saying this. That thread saying we are the best country was one of the dumbest things I've ever done. Also, it sounded much worse than I intended it to. I don't go around bragging that my country is the best, but it sounded like it, which wasn't what I wanted. And finally, when I say the US is the best country in the world it doesn't mean anything to me. It's a label that doesn't matter. I believe Americans are no better than anyone else in the world, I don't like our president, I was opposed to the war in Iraq, and I understand how arrogant we are.
With that out of the way I'll tell a story that is an outrage. I live in a town about 30 miles away from Spokane. During the period before the War in Iraq when Germany was doing the smart thing and trying to stop the war the German teacher and a couple of German foreign exchange students at a school in Spokane received hate letters saying "Go back home you Nazi."
Another thing that I hate so much is the patriotic idiots who live around me. Everyone makes very cruel jokes about France for opposing the war and are boycotting French products are defacing their culture by calling French fries 'Freedom Fries'. Our country is so stupid because everytime someone opposes something we do we get mad at and threaten to cut off their foreign aid and other stuff like that. So we do whatever we want because we're special.
Another thing that pisses me off is the fact that we expect people to do something wrong just because we've helped them in the past. If a friend of yours has been very kind to you in the past and has done a whole lot for you and then asks you to help him to do something wrong, should you have to do it?
I wish we could save all of our patriotic thoughts for the 4th of July, party a lot and say we're the best and then have all of it overwith.
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May 10, 2003, 23:55
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French fries aren't exactly French culture so how is it defacing France by changing the name? The only thing they're defacing is their own intellect.
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May 10, 2003, 23:55
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Troll alert! Break out the fire damage stuff!
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May 10, 2003, 23:55
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I certainly share these feelings, but of course epxect a load of abuse here, form those that share the feelings of those you decry.
I think my sig. says enough for me on this topic.
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May 10, 2003, 23:59
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USA! USA! USA! 
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May 11, 2003, 00:01
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The boob job his improved he physique considerably. That said she's still a stupid twit (abet one who looks like she'd make a nice porn star).
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May 11, 2003, 00:05
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Though I was still digging her during that whole school girl outfit video thing...
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May 11, 2003, 00:07
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Re: Stupid patriotic Americans
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This country is way to patriotic. First off, I'm not over patriotic. You'd probably call me crazy for saying this. That thread saying we are the best country was one of the dumbest things I've ever done. Also, it sounded much worse than I intended it to. I don't go around bragging that my country is the best, but it sounded like it, which wasn't what I wanted. And finally, when I say the US is the best country in the world it doesn't mean anything to me. It's a label that doesn't matter. I believe Americans are no better than anyone else in the world, I don't like our president, I was opposed to the war in Iraq, and I understand how arrogant we are.
With that out of the way I'll tell a story that is an outrage. I live in a town about 30 miles away from Spokane. During the period before the War in Iraq when Germany was doing the smart thing and trying to stop the war the German teacher and a couple of German foreign exchange students at a school in Spokane received hate letters saying "Go back home you Nazi."
Another thing that I hate so much is the patriotic idiots who live around me. Everyone makes very cruel jokes about France for opposing the war and are boycotting French products are defacing their culture by calling French fries 'Freedom Fries'. Our country is so stupid because everytime someone opposes something we do we get mad at and threaten to cut off their foreign aid and other stuff like that. So we do whatever we want because we're special.
Another thing that pisses me off is the fact that we expect people to do something wrong just because we've helped them in the past. If a friend of yours has been very kind to you in the past and has done a whole lot for you and then asks you to help him to do something wrong, should you have to do it?
I wish we could save all of our patriotic thoughts for the 4th of July, party a lot and say we're the best and then have all of it overwith.
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Fly the tricolour now.
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May 11, 2003, 00:08
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May 11, 2003, 00:08
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May 11, 2003, 00:13
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USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!USA!
Let's bomb another country!!!!
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May 11, 2003, 00:14
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Re: Stupid patriotic Americans
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Originally posted by johncmcleod
This country is way to patriotic. First off, I'm not over patriotic. You'd probably call me crazy for saying this. That thread saying we are the best country was one of the dumbest things I've ever done. Also, it sounded much worse than I intended it to. I don't go around bragging that my country is the best, but it sounded like it, which wasn't what I wanted. And finally, when I say the US is the best country in the world it doesn't mean anything to me. It's a label that doesn't matter. I believe Americans are no better than anyone else in the world, I don't like our president, I was opposed to the war in Iraq, and I understand how arrogant we are.
With that out of the way I'll tell a story that is an outrage. I live in a town about 30 miles away from Spokane. During the period before the War in Iraq when Germany was doing the smart thing and trying to stop the war the German teacher and a couple of German foreign exchange students at a school in Spokane received hate letters saying "Go back home you Nazi."
Another thing that I hate so much is the patriotic idiots who live around me. Everyone makes very cruel jokes about France for opposing the war and are boycotting French products are defacing their culture by calling French fries 'Freedom Fries'. Our country is so stupid because everytime someone opposes something we do we get mad at and threaten to cut off their foreign aid and other stuff like that. So we do whatever we want because we're special.
Another thing that pisses me off is the fact that we expect people to do something wrong just because we've helped them in the past. If a friend of yours has been very kind to you in the past and has done a whole lot for you and then asks you to help him to do something wrong, should you have to do it?
I wish we could save all of our patriotic thoughts for the 4th of July, party a lot and say we're the best and then have all of it overwith.
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I'm sure, we will never have to worried about you being in the Military, now will we? 
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May 11, 2003, 00:17
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[q]Also, it sounded much worse than I intended it to. [/q[
Ahh, I see you intend on not breaking that tradition 
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May 11, 2003, 00:36
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WE ARE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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May 11, 2003, 00:41
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USA! USA! USA!
Jose can you see! (and Jose says 'YES!' and makes for it but gets zapped by border control several times).
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May 11, 2003, 00:41
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john, you seem like you want to have an opinion but you really don't have one on a lot of issues. You change your mind all the time.
I admit we have stupid people. But everyone else does, too. And fortunately, our stupid people who blindly follow America are blindly following the right cause most of the time. 
USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May 11, 2003, 00:49
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USA! USA!
Show another American hottie
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May 11, 2003, 00:50
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USA 4EVAAaah!
You know I'm the frontier fighter here. These damn hippies shop at the same grocery store I use all the time. They have a community or something near I guess, or then they don't have a shower in their own homes.
Anyway, last time I had my t-shirt representing huge US flag. Ok so I was outside smoking a cigarrette and drinking my perfectly good coke and these losers gives me looks that they kind of look down on me. Next time I saw these dudes in my store.. oh yes, one of them had Che-shirt.. oh yeah.. it's a fight, I know, but next time I'm wearing MY US shirt (like today) and I go shopping there (later today)... I just might have to engage in a battle where I have to shout 'U S A! U S A! U S A!' and waive my fist in the air and few 'WOohoo!'s too. It'll definitely piss them off..
so I'm defending you guys here from these damn no good hippies. I should get a green card just for that .
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May 11, 2003, 00:51
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Originally posted by JaguarWarrior:
You change your mind all the time.
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One who realizes he was incorrect is wiser than one who cannot.
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May 11, 2003, 00:56
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Originally posted by johncmcleod
One who realizes he was incorrect is wiser than one who cannot.
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I change my mind all the time too. I just don't post an opinion unless I'm sure of it.
USA!
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May 11, 2003, 00:56
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I don't get it. I start a thread saying we're the best, and everyone gets pissed off for me being overpatriotic. Then I start a thread saying we're overpatriotic and it turns into a God Bless the USA thread.
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Originally posted by johncmcleod
I don't get it. I start a thread saying we're the best, and everyone gets pissed off for me being overpatriotic. Then I start a thread saying we're overpatriotic and it turns into a God Bless the USA thread.
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That's because everyone hates you, of course. 
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May 11, 2003, 01:00
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The United States is one of the few countries in the world where people of all races, ethnicities, and faiths are accepted and live in relative harmony...
USA!
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May 11, 2003, 01:03
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Originally posted by Albert Speer
The United States is one of the few countries in the world where people of all races, ethnicities, and faiths are accepted and live in relative harmony...
USA!
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YEAH! HARMONY WITH THE MINORITY!
USA USA!
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May 11, 2003, 01:04
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Originally posted by Pekka
USA 4EVAAaah!
You know I'm the frontier fighter here. These damn hippies shop at the same grocery store I use all the time. They have a community or something near I guess, or then they don't have a shower in their own homes.
Anyway, last time I had my t-shirt representing huge US flag. Ok so I was outside smoking a cigarrette and drinking my perfectly good coke and these losers gives me looks that they kind of look down on me. Next time I saw these dudes in my store.. oh yes, one of them had Che-shirt.. oh yeah.. it's a fight, I know, but next time I'm wearing MY US shirt (like today) and I go shopping there (later today)... I just might have to engage in a battle where I have to shout 'U S A! U S A! U S A!' and waive my fist in the air and few 'WOohoo!'s too. It'll definitely piss them off..
so I'm defending you guys here from these damn no good hippies. I should get a green card just for that .
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You the man!!!!
Don't take no crap from those hippies. Give me a call next time you see them and we'll send in some Predator drones to back you up!!! 
USA!
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May 11, 2003, 01:54
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Originally posted by johncmcleod
I don't get it. I start a thread saying we're the best, and everyone gets pissed off for me being overpatriotic. Then I start a thread saying we're overpatriotic and it turns into a God Bless the USA thread.
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It's not Like I didn't warn you in post #3.
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Originally posted by johncmcleod
I don't get it. I start a thread saying we're the best, and everyone gets pissed off for me being overpatriotic. Then I start a thread saying we're overpatriotic and it turns into a God Bless the USA thread.
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The World is an odd place. The Net is even odder.
No one boosts their own ego by agreeing with anyone else. Only particularism run wild will make you a name.
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YEAH! HARMONY WITH THE MINORITY!
USA USA!
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Whether you say it in a sarcastic tone or not, I firmly believe that no other country on this planet can match the racial and ethnic harmony of the USA.
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Ted Striker, Don't worry though, I'll handle those ropeshirts myself if they start messing with my shirt!!
I know they must be on welfare to buy those papers so they can have a party back at the community, but.. they don't mess with my shirt!
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May 11, 2003, 02:12
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Originally posted by Lord Merciless
Whether you say it in a sarcastic tone or not, I firmly believe that no other country on this planet can match the racial and ethnic harmony of the USA.
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Brazil. Panama.
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