May 12, 2003, 04:03
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Deity
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Somewhere in the delta quadrant, eh, I meant lower left hand corner.
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May 12, 2003, 04:56
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King
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Uh, well I've never seen this one on apolyton before, and I've registered quite some time ago already...
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After all, the questions are "kinda" sloped as to make everyone who isn't actively pro-puppy-killing-and-village-slaughtering a libertarian leftie
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Well that's your opinion, I found the questions quite good and to the point actually.
that link you gave me is worth crap but I guess we all knew that already.
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May 12, 2003, 08:24
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King
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Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 0.92
Make sense, I've always been a fence-sitter.
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May 12, 2003, 08:30
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Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8.26
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May 12, 2003, 08:35
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While we are discussing this, could someone explain whether:
"Some people are naturally unlucky."
means that:
A) "Some people are talented but have been left in the lurch by luck. It's a no-brainer to see that we need to invest in helping them get back on their feet."
B) "Some people cannot be helped with any amount of money because they are luckless and forever in the dumps. Paying them welfare would be throwing good money after bad."
I've been going with interpretation A every time.
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May 12, 2003, 08:35
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I went with interpretation B.
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May 12, 2003, 08:57
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Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Authoritarian/Egalitarian: -8.97
Good, I am less of a commie and more of a liberal this time around.
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May 12, 2003, 10:22
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Don't need no stinking computer to tell me that I'm a meglomaniac!
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May 12, 2003, 10:25
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King
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Stefu is right, you know...
We've done this 'test' before... demographics show that every time, at least 7/10 are leftists and 4/5 are liberals...
EDIT: I didn't knew that the test was updated before this. Let's see if the results are different now...
Last edited by VJ; May 12, 2003 at 14:02.
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May 12, 2003, 13:08
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King
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They've changed some of the questions again.
Economic: 0.00
Libertarian: -6.31
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May 12, 2003, 13:11
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King
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They also added a chart where they plotted the points of todays world leaders. Check out where George Bush, Ariel Sharon, and Yasser Arafat are.
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May 12, 2003, 13:42
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King
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They really have changed some of those questions, and rather drastically, I might add.
The first thing I noticed is that they replaced the "Surely the Jews have to take some responsibility for their persecution over the years" with the "Military action that violates international law is sometimes necessary". Those are completely different questions.
They've also tweaked some questions to totally change their meaning, IMO. The one about the one party state is now an entirely different question - before, the statement was that a one party state is better because it avoids some of the political bickering, now it is an advantage of the one party state is..... What a stupid change. Of course that is an advantage, but it doesn't mean that you think the system as a whole is better.
I'm still very centrist, BTW:
Econ: -0.35
Lib: -2.15
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May 12, 2003, 13:46
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King
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Originally posted by St Leo
While we are discussing this, could someone explain whether:
"Some people are naturally unlucky."
means that:
A) "Some people are talented but have been left in the lurch by luck. It's a no-brainer to see that we need to invest in helping them get back on their feet."
B) "Some people cannot be helped with any amount of money because they are luckless and forever in the dumps. Paying them welfare would be throwing good money after bad."
I've been going with interpretation A every time.
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Actually here I was just thinking of some patients my dad has (he's a cardiologist) that are sooo unlucky... while some people have a cold every now and then, those people have a tumor, heartattacks, and other horrible injuries and diseases one after the other.... now that's being unlucky, I wasn't really thinking politically or something...
I agreed there
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May 12, 2003, 13:49
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King
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Originally posted by Tuomerehu
Stefu is right, you know...
We've done this 'test' before... demographics show that every time, at least 7/10 are leftists and 4/5 are liberals...
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I think that if the people I see as really rightwing authoritarians post here that would change a big deal... I don't see an imran or dinodoc posting their results
if more leftists fill in this test, as a result there will be more left/libertarian scores
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May 12, 2003, 13:55
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King
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They really have changed some of those questions, and rather drastically, I might add.
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I made the test again after reading this.
Economic Left/Right: 0.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.15
11/14 from Iconochasms: 8, 9 and 14 wrong.
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May 12, 2003, 14:14
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they did change it a bit. well, no surprises here.
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Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.72
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I really like the Dalai Lama here.
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May 12, 2003, 14:20
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Last edited by Az; May 12, 2003 at 14:44.
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May 12, 2003, 14:20
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Left : -7.38
Liberal : -6.41
Dang, I have softened
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May 12, 2003, 14:41
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Deity
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Anyone go more left than -8.75
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May 12, 2003, 14:45
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Spiff: that's ok, It's just the matter on how much you agree or disagree with things.
I am very glad that I got less libertarian btw. *gets whip out*
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May 12, 2003, 17:45
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King
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Economic: -8.75
Libertarian: -9.44
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May 12, 2003, 18:14
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Prince
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Ever so slightly left, and ever so slightly authoritarian. (-.75, -.1) Ha! Proved you wrong Stefu. Though I must admit, I don't consider muself left at all.
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May 12, 2003, 18:28
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everytime i take the test, my scores change slightly...
Economic Left/Right: 4.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 4.51
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May 12, 2003, 18:39
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where is that chart of all the positions of all the posters? it's bizarre how i was in the top right extreme
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May 12, 2003, 20:21
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King
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Originally posted by Albert Speer
everytime i take the test, my scores change slightly...
Economic Left/Right: 4.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 4.51
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FASCIST!
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May 12, 2003, 20:47
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Anyway, this time I got:
Economic Left/Right: 6.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -0.77
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May 12, 2003, 21:12
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Chieftain
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economic -1
authoritarian -1.85
Thats odd since I consider myself conservative and vote republican 90% of the time, 100% in presidential elections. Maybe I'm softening up, more likely is that the questions about corporations are worded to make you distrust them.
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May 13, 2003, 20:29
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Frogman:
someone said that the test got a liberal bias... a slight left/liberal leaning like your scores probably means you are a moderate republican
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May 13, 2003, 20:52
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Prince
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Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 4.10
A bit more authoritarian since the last time I took the test...
(chart made by red_jon)
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May 13, 2003, 20:55
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look at my position... that **** is ridiculous...
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