PRAVDA SPECIAL #1 - 12th May 2003 - Election Results

[Micha]

Ha! Now I know how to explain that!

0100 binary means 0*8 + 1*4 + 0*2 + 0*1 = 4
so
1111 binary means 1*8 + 1*4 + 1*2 + 1*1 = 15
there you have the "15". Two digits. that´s not efficient, cause computers use 4 binary digits as ONE unit, so the expression should also be ONE digit.
That´s where HEX comes in place! Hex numbers start like normal ones, but "10" normal is "A" Hex, up to "15" normal is "F" HEX.
Then a second Hex digit is added for "16" normal (="10" Hex). Adding 15 to that will give you "31" normal and "1F" Hex. "32" normal is "20" Hex and so on. Up to "255" normal being "FF" Hex!
1111 1111 binary is 1*128 + 1*64 + ... + 1*1 =255
F F Hex
0001 1111 binary
1 F Hex
0101 1010 binary
5 A Hex ("10" normal = "A" Hex)

This way you can say e.g.
AA F3 D0 01 F1 instead of
1010 1010 1111 0011 1101 0000 0000 0001 1111 0001

See?

[Vev]

2^8 is 256 actually
to get 1024 you need 2^10
256 is the normal ASCII range
wide characters are bigger each is two bytes so there are 2^16 = 65536 combinations. Enough to cover strange characters from other languages and funny symbols.

To convert bin to hex you grab every 4 bin bits as mentioned above. E.g.

10110110 = 1011, 0110 = 11, 6 = B,6

If you ask me about octals, you grab every 3 bits and turn them into octs. I have more practise with hex than octs or bins.

[Maniac]

I think I understand what you're saying, but I fail to see how hex is better or shorter. It's just a different code/system.

With the binary code I've used until now, every byte of eight ones and zeroes stands for an alphanumberic symbol.

With hex you still need a byte of eight ones and zeroes to code one alphanumberic symbol. You just have the ability to represent that byte of eight symbols into a hex of two symbols. But what use does that have for computers, as they can only understand/read/however-I-have-to-say-it ones and zeroes, ons and offs?

For example:

0011001 (in "my" binary) = 1 (in alphanumberic)
0000001 (in hexic/hexagonal? binary) = 01 (in hex) = 1 (in alphanumberic) *

* I at least presume "01" stands for "1", as I don't have a hex=>alphanumberic transformer.

If I understand things correctly at least, they are just two different, but equally-useful codes.

[Method]

Originally posted by History Guy
Those Cyborgs get touchy when magnets are around...

00100011011110110100000100000011011100110111100100 00100100000011010000110010101100000011100110010000 00110010001101001011100110110001101101111011101100 11001010111001001100101011001000010000001101111011 10101011100100010000001101111011011100110110001111 00100100000011101110110010101100001011010110110111 00110010101110011011100110010000100100000001110100 11100110110001101100001011100100110010101100100001 11010011010010010000001110011011101010111000001110 00001101111011100110110010100100000011010000110010 10010000001110111011011110111010101101100011001000 11011100110000001110100001000000110001001100101001 00000011100110110111100100000011000100110100101110 10001110100011001010111001000100000011010010110011 00010000001101001001000000110100001100001011001000 11011100110000001110100001000000110110001100101011 00110011101000010000001101000011010010110110100100 00001100100011001010111001101110100011010010111010 00111010101110100011001010010000001100001011001100 11101000110010101110010001000000110100001100101001 00000011100110111010001101111011011000110010100100 00001110100011010000110010100100000011100100110010 10110001101101001011100000110010100100000011001100 11011110111001000100000011110000110010101101110011 01111011000100111001001100101011101110010000001100 11001101111011100100010000001101101011001010010000 00110100101101110001000000111010001101000011000010 11101000010000001110000011000010111001101110100001 00000011011000110100101100110011001010010111000101 11000101110

[Maniac]

10110110 = 1011, 0110 = 11, 6 = B,6

Yes, but what does "B6" stand for in alphanumberic? You can't talk in English with only the symbols 0123456789ABCDEF.

[Maniac]

00110010001000110111101101110011000000111010000100 00001110111011011110111001001110010011110010010000 00101010001001011010001110010111000100000010101110 11001010010000001100011011000010110111000100000011 10011011101000110100101101100011011000010000001100 11101101001011101100110010100100000011001010110110 00110010101100011011101000111001001101001011000110 11000010110110000100000011100000111010101101100011 10011011001010010000001110100011011110010000001100 01101100101011100100111010001100001011010010110111 00010000001110000011000010111001001110100011100110 01000000110111101100110001000000110100001101001011 10011001000000110001001110010011000010110100101101 11000100000011010010110011000100000011010000110010 10110000001110011001000000111010001101111011011110 01000000110110101110101011000110110100000100000011 10100011100100110111101110101011000100110110001100 10100101110001000000101010001101000011001010110111 00010000001101000011010010111001100100000011011010 11101010111001101100011011011000110010101110011001 00000011101110110100101101100011011000010000001100 01001100101011000110110111101101101011001010010000 00111001101110000011000010111001101110100011010010 11000110011101100100000011010000110010100100000011 10111011011110111010101101100011001000010000001101 11001101111001000000110110001101111011011100110011 10110010101110010001000000110001001100101001000000 11000010110001001101100011001010010000001110100011 01111001000000110001101101111011011100111010001110 01001101111011011000010000001110100011010000110010 10110110100101100001000000110101001110101011100110 11101000010000001100001011100110010000001110111011 00101001000000111011101101111011101010110110001100 10001101110011000000111010000100000011000100110010 10010000001100001011000100110110001100101001000000 11101000110111100100000011000110110111101101110011 10100011100100110111101101100001000000110111101110 10101110010001000000110100101101101011100000110110 00110000101101110011101000111001100100000011101110 11010000110010101101110001000000110000100100000011 10011011101000111001001101111011011100110011100100 00001101101011000010110011101101110011001010111010 00010000001101001011100110010000001100001011100100 110111101110101011011100110010000101110

Only two sentences or so, and such a long code.

[Method]

10110011010000110110101110000011010000010111000100 00001101111011100100010110000100000011001100110000 10110100101101100011010010110111001100111001000000 11101000110100001100001011101000010110000100000011 01001011011010111000001100001011000110111010000100 00001110010011010010110011001101100011001010111001 10010000001110111011011110111001001101011001000000 11101110110010101101100011011000010111000100000010 00100010001010100000101010100010010000010000001010 10001001111001000000101010001001000010001010010000 00101010101001110010010010101011001000101010100100 10100110100100101010100010110010010000100100000010 01101010101110100000101001000010000010100100001000 00101001000010000010010000100100000001110100110010 101110110011010010110110000111010

[Vev]

It is just another form of encoding. E.g. If you wish, you can convert alphabet into decimal system. So a base 26 into a base 10. To do this you would need to convert a text into a numeric value. I will use a short word as the value grows quickly with each character.

"SMAX" = 19x26^3 + 14x26^2 + 1x26^1 + 24x26^0
=333944 + 9464 + 26 + 24
= 343458 in decimal
= 53DA2 in hex
= 1010011110110100010 in bin

[Jamski]

Ummm - it seems the boys have answered for me Drogue

Have "fun" working it out, you have all the clues you need now. (BTW you can get programms from the internet that work it all out for you, but you probably already knew that I'm not smart enough to do it on my own...)

-Jam

[Hercules]

10010000001110111011011110111001001101011001000000
11101110110010101101100011011000010111000100000010
00100010001010100000101010100010010000010000001010
10001001111001000000101010001001000010001010010000
00101010101001110010010010101011001000101010100100
10100110100100101010100010110010010000100100000010
01101010101110100000101001000010000010100100001000
00101001000010000010010000100100000001110100110010
101110110011010010110110000111010

We pirates ( signals experts), can understand exactly what you're saying and the answer is 1111 10000.! (bin) And that's final

[Vev]

Amazing how much binary communication can be found in Pravda discussions.

[Jamski]

PRAVDA really caters for all tastes, whether cyborg or full human - that's why 11 out of ten readers prefer PRAVDA (According to official PAC polling)

-Jam

[Maniac]

Hercules, that message means nothing right? I can't translate it and I haven't seen a message starting with 1001000000 in this thread. Also your answer has nine bits.

[Jamski]

Poor Maniac

-Jam

[Hercules]

That's Cybergs for ye. Bins and hex but no Sex

[Vev]

Originally posted by Hercules
That's Cybergs for ye. Bins and hex but no Sex

Is that base 6?

[Jamski]

Sex !

I remember that !

/me starts work on the next PRAVDA Special Edition....

-Jam

[Jamski]

Originally posted by Vev


Is that base 6?

I belive they call it 4th base

-Jam

[Hercules]

11 out of ten readers prefer PRAVDA

So that's 3 out of ten or did you mean 11 out of 10 in bin. But its funny no matter

[Jamski]

I aim to amuse

You know there are 10 sorts of people : Those who understand Binary, and those who don't.



-Jam

[Hercules]

Is that base 6?

When it's right it can be basic 7

[Vev]

Is this going to develop into some sort of 133t binary talk? Although it will be a heck lot less annoying.

00010111 00001111 00001111 00010100!

[Jamski]

As the Editor of PRAVDA, it would be a shame to have to kill horribly ask people not to degenerate from binary into the abomination of 133t talk. Even Miriam's crazed followers know better than that...

-Jam

[Hercules]

Tell me how do the Hive Army march on May 1, past the great Hive leader?

Is it
111111111111111111111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111

or
1010101010101010101010101010101101
1010101010101010101010101010101101
1010101010101010101010101010101101
1010101010101010101010101010101101

or other traditional marching order?

[Hercules]

Ah 133t. We pirates love 133t and L3wting

[Jamski]

I'm afraid at the moment the Hive Army just goes :

101

There's not an awful lot of them right now

-Jam

[Jamski]

/me shoots Hercules gently

It was a mercy killing really, he was about to become 14 years old again...

-Jam

[Vev]

I thought pirates were interested in grog and wenches.

[Makahlua]

..and l3wt, er I mean b00ty (there's many kinds of that...) And as I am a 'wench', I'd rather have me one of those lean sailor lads I like tekillya mixed into a margarita for my grog, thank ye ^_^

[Vev]

Here ya go, for the lads and the ladies.