State control

Kramerman · May 17, 2003, 23:07

On a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being total anarchy and 10 being an uber fascist state, what amount of power would the centralized government have in your personalized Ideal State?

Im all for a powerful, but not too powerful centralized government. Id like to have a 5 to regulate foreign relations, trade, defense, and other tasks od administration.

GePap · May 17, 2003, 23:23

I voted 6.

Agathon · May 17, 2003, 23:31

Banana!!!!!

loinburger · May 17, 2003, 23:37

Are 5 and 6 supposed to be identical?

The Vagabond · May 17, 2003, 23:42

A government should be strong (even very strong) but within a limited, well-defined competence. No option for that in the poll.

Bosh · May 17, 2003, 23:55

GePap · May 17, 2003, 23:59

The Anarchist have gone too far!

We must wipe away the anarchist threat in a great sea of blood! I mean, just look at the murderous gleam in the babies eyes..its the next Hitler!

Spiffor · May 18, 2003, 00:00

I voted 7, even though I don't really know how to interpet it. Let's just say that I think of the US interventionism in economy way insufficient, and I'm not found of juries anyway (the misuses of juries are one root of the ridiculous trials)

Bosh · May 18, 2003, 00:12

aaaaw common GePap the little tyke hasn't even had a chance to grow a mohawk yet. would you take that away from him?

GePap · May 18, 2003, 00:14

A Mohawk?

first that gleam in his eyes, now threats of future hair attrocities?

The kid need psychological help!

Kramerman · May 18, 2003, 00:22

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Originally posted by loinburger
Are 5 and 6 supposed to be identical?

yes. some may see the US as a 5, others may see it a 6

Kramerman · May 18, 2003, 00:23

and for options not included, such as banana (

), please feel free to interpolate

Kidicious · May 18, 2003, 00:24

I voted 10, but I'm not sure what that's suppose to be. I don't think of myself as a fascist. When I took the test it said I was right in between libertarian and authoritarian.

Kramerman · May 18, 2003, 00:25

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Originally posted by Spiffor
I voted 7, even though I don't really know how to interpet it. Let's just say that I think of the US interventionism in economy way insufficient, and I'm not found of juries anyway (the misuses of juries are one root of the ridiculous trials)

basically a 7 is moving towards a police state. no trial by jury, and accused peoples' rights are very limited

Kramerman · May 18, 2003, 00:32

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Originally posted by Kidicious
I voted 10, but I'm not sure what that's suppose to be. I don't think of myself as a fascist.

then 10 probably wasnt the best vote

10 would be something from Fahrenheit 451 or some other Ray bradbury type state. The government is in complete control. no freedom exists for the peons that are the populace.

EDIT: ilk.. i wrote this post in a hurry, lots of typos

GePap · May 18, 2003, 00:35

Wouldn;t 10 be more like 1984 than farenheit 451? Can you really compare book burnings to Double speak?

Kramerman · May 18, 2003, 00:43

book burning was a mere facet of the government control... but yes, 1984 would be another good example

Kidicious · May 18, 2003, 00:46

oh well. sorry. I should have waited to vote.

Ramo · May 18, 2003, 00:47

Viva la CNT.

Shi Huangdi · May 18, 2003, 02:10

4. The government should be able to enforce the law, and protect the people, and take reasonable measures the improve the economy, but there should be no excessive interference in people's lives.

Bosh · May 18, 2003, 03:00

Quote:

Viva la CNT.

No Vivas for FAI? You're getting soft Ramo

Ramo · May 18, 2003, 03:13

Them too. Vivas all around!

Az · May 18, 2003, 04:48

That poll is unfair.

State control of which aspects of life?

Starchild · May 18, 2003, 06:36

Ideally I'm with the anarchists here. Realistically, I'm voting 6.

Sava · May 18, 2003, 11:59

I agree with Azazel... this poll is unfair. There are aspects that the state should control, and others it should not.

Social Behavior Issues: (religion, art, substance usage, sexual behavior, political beliefs, literature, and press) The government's only involvement in these aspects of life should be to maintain the freedom of its citizens to choose how they want to live their lives.

Public Safety Issues: (police, fire, health-care, military) The government's primary concern is to protect its citizens. Thus, these aspects should be in government control.

Economic Issues: I believe in strongly in the Capitalist system. The government should keeps its nose out of business, and business should be out of government. I have very unorthodox theories on how the government should bring in revenue. Income should be taxed less... people shouldn't be penalized for what they produce... I'd like to see government funded more like a non-profit corporation, bringing in revenue for usage and consumption of energy and infrastructural systems. Basically, my economic system would consist of an almost laisze-faire (spelling?) consumer goods market... a self-sufficient, non-profit government controlled energy and transportation sector... and a tax-funded public safety sector. I haven't yet thought up specifics, so please don't ask for any.

Regardless of involvement... government should be democratic and the number of parties not restricted.

Captain Obvious · May 18, 2003, 12:16

I voted a 7 but could go up to an 8 or 9 in times of crises.
(Crises = defending aganist Communist threat, terrorism, times of war, and so on.)

OT question for Azazel - Is that a picture of yourself in your avatar???

You look so wise and all-knowing! As if you know something that none of us do.......