May 20, 2003, 10:04
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I don't really disagree. If I'm honest I think we should do our best to move towards convergance and then join.
But part of me just wants the cool euro notes and not to have to change money when I go on holiday.
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May 20, 2003, 10:10
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"If I'm honest I think we should do our best to move towards convergance and then join."
Developing countries are converging at a steady rate. There's not much you can do to aid convergence - who is actually going to move from variable to fixed mortgage as a result of wanting to join the Euro? Individuals will take the deal that is best for them at the time.
"But part of me just wants the cool euro notes and not to have to change money when I go on holiday."
Unfortunately this is probably what the British public will end up being convinced by.
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May 20, 2003, 10:11
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Which is why a referendum is pointless.
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May 20, 2003, 10:11
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I like changing notes before going on holiday it adds to the excitement(not that this is an argument for keeping the pound)
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May 20, 2003, 10:12
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I find it annoying and I don't like paying the charges. Mind you these days I just use my cash card abroad anyway.
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May 20, 2003, 10:18
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Which is why a referendum is pointless.
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Politically it isn't...
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May 20, 2003, 10:24
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Is it true that if we sign this Constitution they're going to put a statue of Napoleon up in Trafalgar Square? I read it in The Sun...
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May 20, 2003, 10:31
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Yeah right you read it in the Sun. It's actually quite a decent rag these days.
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May 20, 2003, 10:33
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No its not.
The editor is Rebekah Wade who strated the pedophile witch hunt.
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May 20, 2003, 10:37
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It's true Boddies. Okay, they weren't being entirely serious, but they posted a picture of what Trafalgar Square could look like if the bungling beaurocrats of Brussels get their way, with Napoleon on top of Nelson's column. Because, that's that the European Constitution is really all about.
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May 20, 2003, 10:39
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Originally posted by TheStinger
I like changing notes before going on holiday it adds to the excitement(not that this is an argument for keeping the pound)
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Plus the fact you can spend more without worrying about it because its not 'real' money
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May 20, 2003, 10:39
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I wish people would use sensible arguments about why we need to completley change europe
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May 20, 2003, 10:40
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The local council won't even put a statue of Mandela in in Trafalgar Square, so I laugh in the Sun's general direction.
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May 20, 2003, 10:40
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Originally posted by Gibsie
It's true Boddies. Okay, they weren't being entirely serious, but they posted a picture of what Trafalgar Square could look like if the bungling beaurocrats of Brussels get their way, with Napoleon on top of Nelson's column. Because, that's that the European Constitution is really all about.
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It would be funnier if people didn't believe that sh1te.
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May 20, 2003, 10:41
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Originally posted by TheStinger
No its not.
The editor is Rebekah Wade who strated the pedophile witch hunt.
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It told you all you need to know about Sun readers when they bricked the PAEDITRICIAN'S house!!
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May 20, 2003, 10:42
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Originally posted by TheStinger
No its not.
The editor is Rebekah Wade who strated the pedophile witch hunt.
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Nothing wrong with that. We need the equivalent of Megan's Law over here.
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May 20, 2003, 10:43
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Well I don't think we do, however she is responsible for the attacks on innocent people including doctors
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May 20, 2003, 10:43
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No, those responsible for that were those actually carrying out the attacks.
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May 20, 2003, 10:43
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They were News of the World readers. Completely different thing.
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May 20, 2003, 10:44
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Like the differnce between an Austrian Nazi and a German one
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May 20, 2003, 10:45
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Yeah, it's great when people attack Paediatrician's houses because of the ignorant rabble raising lies they've read in some jizz rag.
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May 20, 2003, 10:46
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Lots of x-posts, I was searching for the story.
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May 20, 2003, 10:48
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"jizz-rag"?! Doesn't jizz=spunk?
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May 20, 2003, 10:48
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Don't blame the paper. Blame the idiots who go to attack innocent people.
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May 20, 2003, 10:53
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"jizz-rag"?! Doesn't jizz=spunk?
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Yes.
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May 20, 2003, 11:25
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blimey, i leave for one day and this thread explodes. 
ok, people have been saying that it would be pointless to have a vote on it because the people don't know enough, is the average person in all the countries that ARE having one much better informed? i hardly think so. the government hasn't exactly been shouting from the rooftops about this one, very little effort has been made to explain it to the public, they're trying to sneak it through without giving the people a chance to have their say, it's completely undemocratic.
mike, the tories got slaughtered when they ran their campaign on the euro for two reasons 1) europe isn't as important to people as many other issues, be it public services, law and order or whatever, 2) people will get a chance to reject the euro in a vote anyway, so what would be the point of voting in a party to do something you can do yourself?
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May 20, 2003, 11:34
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True about the Conservatives. They really know how to throw an election in style don't they. 
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May 20, 2003, 11:36
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very true, they were never going to win that election anyway, but to do as badly as they did took some real effort
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May 20, 2003, 12:38
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The problem is when a group of people are voted into power to make such decisions but then go against what they promised pre-election (eg Student Grants!) and start acting like a dictatorship.
There needs to be a system where the people have to vote on Major issues, or where thier vote carries a significant weighting...
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Absolutely. The people should have to vote on Major issues, like declaring war to another country for example 
Funny how some people can completely change their point of view...
Back to the subject : Blair is supposed to be more pro-euro than most UK Prime Ministers before him so there's some hope . Anyway, I think UK will become much closer of the EU one day or another, and probably adopt the Euro. Could take some time though
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May 20, 2003, 22:13
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All those people ranting about 'lack of information' and I'm sure no one even took a visit to the link I provided
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